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Grayson Waller Move Color Change
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this is completely unfair as now I have a 6* card that I no longer want to play with as his moveset makes no sense and the money and resources I’ve spent on him are now worthless. You could have changed the no pin move to now pin or disable it in sd like you did with no pin moves in stip tours. This was a panic move by you guys and the community is not happy about it. I strongly believe you guys should gift a nice package to everybody for this massive f up from you guys.
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So instead of changing the drip plate, which precious few people have by comparison, you change the poster exponentially more people have without the plate? That makes absolutely zero sense and creates a bad precedent. Waller has been out for a good while. Making this change NOW is completely ridiculous. Why wasn't this foreseen in testing/initial rollout? Why not make the change then? Why do it months later?
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I demand a compensation. Changing him is totally out of line. I have spent a decen amount over the years on this game. That’s about the only thing that holds me back from retiring. This change has me almost pushed right into it indefinitely..
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Yeah that’s definitely a fair question/point. To me what makes this completely different from any other rollback/change is the unavailable drip plate piece. From that lens, and from that lens only, it would be like if they introduced a game mode where the only way to compete would be to use Neville. New players (who they clearly need to attract) are completely shut out of the conversation and the competition if you have Waller dominating by using an item they were never even given an opportunity to obtain. If people figured out a different auto loop card that was actually available, then my opinion would be different. That’s just strategic use of the game in front of you.
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This isn’t the first time you all have changed a card because you all don’t understand your game, or just listen to your player base. Even your CC’s pointed this out long ago. Y’all just continued to make money on the card and then hit us with the blindside switch. It’s ridiculous.
Let’s forget the amount of money/time people invested into getting the card, or using prizewall currency on shards/gears in multiple events, or plate currency putting ideal plates and straps on the card. Just meh, all that doesn’t matter, here’s the change- deal with it.
It's already painful enough for us players chasing straps/plates, getting them and then having to spend even more money to move stuff we spent money to attain, now you just make the limited amount of moves we have even more limited by wholesale changing the move colors of a card.The funniest part is the mentoring program…After 6+ years, I would never suggest this game to others. This is just one example of many as to why.
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Ok so where’s the compensation for the gear I purchased based on the moveset he was presented with at release? Since the drip I have on him now is utterly useless, where’s my plate move compensation? And what about all the strap parts I burned through opening his strap and maxing his medals with the intention of being able to use the drip on him? And the tokens I used to take him 6ss? Because every move I made with him was with the intention of being able to run a drip on him.
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”That new car you purchased sir, well we’re going to have to remove the engine to ensure fairness to the folks with bicycles.”
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Make it right, give zombie prizewall medallions! To make up for the resources spent. 100k for the prizewall.
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Being honest, this is only happening because they decided to make Showdown faction events a grind by breaking a type of gem. If you remember, this past event was supposed to be multiply gems instead of immobile. So instead of coming with a new idea they chose the worst path by nerfing a character they released 4 months ago and was the most voted by the community. On top of that people that had the drip plate and invested on Waller are being screwed due to devs being unable to see a simple game mechanic that is well known in the community.
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what needs to be reevaluated is how new characters are brought into the game anymore. Majority of people wouldn’t care what was done if people didn’t spend so much money on getting a new character. Yes they all have different values and for instance this one for Waller was 1200 that’s all good but for people to get him early they had to spend a lot of money to pull him which is what hurts. Revamp the new character system where people don’t have to shell out hundreds of dollars to get him and a ton of dupe shards and people wouldn’t care as much. The whole loot system pulls is outrageous and the amount requested and what we get back for that money is just not worth it especially when you pull stunts like this those spenders will think twice before they spend again. FIX THE PROCESS don’t create more issues !!!
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There needs to be policy with regards to making changes to characters, plates moments etc. something to the effect of a 30 day period in which changes can be made without liability as long as the changes do not make the character plate or moment less valuable. After this period no changes should be possible without compensation to the person are negatively impacted. To simply say the character was able to acquired freely is not enough. There is a cost of time to do the things to be able to acquired the character and money may also have been spent for resources to upgrade the character. In addition there are persons who may not have been able to acquire the character for free and would have spent to do so. More thought and in some cases consultation should happen before these decisions are made. I suggest just not do multiplier contests in showdown and revert the character.
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as far as the drip plate goes to me that’s no different than the OP Ghostbuster plates out there that give people a big advantage. Those plates are also forever gone so are those going to be changed as well ? Again ppl did a lot to get those plates they shouldn’t be penalized for how you made the plates and released them but you can’t go changing them after they have been out for months already.. change the name on the plate from ghostbuster to zombie plates or something like that if your going that route so other ppl can get that plate as well. But otherwise ppl who spent a lot of money should never be told well we are changing the plate or character all the sudden sorry your out all that $$$$… that’s what is not fair to anyone
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Personal attacks aren’t going to get you your black moves back, but hopefully they will catch the eye of the moderators since they are rude and uncivil.
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So you guys are changing Waller of all people but not Carmelo, Muscle Bray or Logan Paul who can spam their moves Infinitely with little to no issue?
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Now I don't have Sheamus and Sasha does not give 12k extra blue gem damage alongside we need to remove Rhonda's jacket so resources and something equivalent should be given or at least you should give us both of his gears as is not getting anything to us free to play you gave it but neither trainer's or plates are the same
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Yeah I think the seance plate will probably introduce the same problems at some point. As for the 50 million damage in feuds, I’d say the difference is there are other cards - which actually are available - that can also do this now. So even if you miss out on one of them there are other fallbacks available.
Waller is a different beast in the sense that he’s 1 of 1 for the SD multi grind. You either have him with the drip or you don’t, and I’m just generally not a fan of that kind of game dynamic.
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you need to balanced is move you putting a card can be really good for plate abd nerfed it for a guy worth nothing now
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24 hours after I took him 6SS. Thanks.
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I could understand this change more if I also couldn’t name 10 other characters that can permanently stun lock. He’s not the only broken character and the others don’t even require an ultra-premium plate to execute. Nobody asked for this change and it wasn’t required to keep anything fair and balanced. This change spits in the face of all those that have spent money and in-game resources to obtain and level-up this character with the needs to even execute this style of play. 100% unnecessary. Do better.
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Dear Scopely. I spent thousands chasing Waller and both gears. We have known this was his play style with the drip plate since his inception. You have known that is how we play him since inception . It’s the only reason we chased an otherwise crappy card. Because of the potential infinite damage loop. It is still slow even with gears. However it is no different than every stun locker in the game. Simply don’t have contests that reward for breaking multiplier gems. Not too hard at all everyone knows that wouldn’t be fair. But to change the only thing that we chased the card for? I want my money back. You bait and switch too much. Want to change a character, do it after trial and before release . You all should be sued for bait and switch. Same for Sami and NAka before. Spent all that money chasing and you changed them because they were good. Now I don’t use them because they are a joke by comparison to others in their classes. But you sure didn’t complain when we dump our back accounts into your coffers chasing them to bait and switch later on. Very disappointing again scopely. You will not get my money for the foreseeable future.
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So if we don't have a drip plate, but we put the Baddest Jacket + Black Defensive plates on the strap instead as a way to get some extra damage/gem defense, those plates are now worthless on that strap too. Can we get some extra skill plate chips so we can remove and switch plates on the straps because of this unforeseen change? I'm going to assume no, since yall still can't even be bothered to fix the glitch where free players sometimes don't get any skill plate chips at all when a new month rolls around.
Disgusting.
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This being the second time now that you are doing this is very concerning. I feel like it’s time to stop spending as now there are 3 to 4 superstars that were big money gets and changed. Not to mention all changed due to the Drip Plate. You dangle these characters out. Let the movesets be published and your content creators post videos not only on their sites but also on WWE Champions site using Champions account characters. After all big spenders get the character and the spending slows you pull a switch and make the character useless or at least not worth anywhere near the money people spent. This is a bait and switch clearly and now the second time you have pulled this on your customers. Not to mention that giving us resources back as I would have never taken him to 6ss without the drip plate option. Also you need to reimburse the plate remove token as well as the drip plate will need to be removed.
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This is not bueno, I was one of the lucky ones who pulled him off during your last screw-up by the end of the month so I got it for fairly cheap. That said, I did spend a lot of resources on him to take him to 6SS because as someone like me who isn't a whale, was the chance to have a compelling character. I got it equipped with Ronda's Jacket and was pretty solid.
All that said, I can't understand the whole "infinite loop" angle, that was never the case. You could be hitting the same black movements over and over again, but the idea was hitting the multiply gems for maximum damage, and after applying the yellow submission your turn was over.
And like many people have said, he needed the gears in order to be OP, regular folks with no gear had to bear for 3-4 turns to do the job on the more powerful characters, so this nerf is honestly completely unnecessary from my point of view, and you are doing a disservice to trust of the community if you don't do anything to address it.
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UNTRUE. I spent hundreds to recruit him off the prizewall because there weren’t enough shards in the contest. I then spent to take him to 6ss. So he was by no means a “free” poster.
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so how do I get my drip plate off my Waller now? Spend the very few resources we get to do so??
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He was NOT ' FREE ' .. That's is very inaccurate ..
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What Free means
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Apparently no, since those characters cost hundreds or thousands of dollars to get. Since they claim Grayson was "free" and "a lot of people have them" they feel comfortable doing this change, all while ignoring the people who spend money on recruiting him, his gears, or the very expensive plates.
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