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Grayson Waller Move Color Change
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Maybe change the Drip plate so that it only takes effect at the end of the turn? Or down the line, are you going to forget about this and release a drip plate for blue, then change him again?
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That was one of the worse decisions you ever made.
I just don't get how is it can be "fair" to people who raised the card up with full knowledge of what it capable of and what trainers he has on account. To people who put Ronda's jacket or other black gem damage based plates to Grayson. Why because of YOUR mistake once again people who doesn't even have Drip plate supposed to feel character any worse? And to make this even more "fair" you chose the color without 12000 gem damage trainer (trainer, not coach).
Give me back all my resources I spent on Grayson, all shards, resources to make his belt (updating the belt, medals, currency to take off the plate), etc. Otherwise give everyone a 12000 blue gem damage thainer, medals with same blue gem damage as it was with black gems, same plates they used but blue gem based (Rhonda Jacket ⇒ Stainer's helmet). Maybe someone had a black gem damage belt, that is supposed to count too
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IF you are going to make this change at least I hope the discus clothesline also gets changed to blue, so the build doesn't get hurt that much
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Sure, let's nerf a guy who's maybe second tier. Meanwhile, anti-stun belt Muscle Man Bray is invincible/unstoppable with his anti-sub move(give it at least some cooldown!), and Carmello just chain stuns and deletes your health bar for 15m with his red recharge moves...
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Well, I think for a Superstar with such a high saturation (he came with a 1200 Shards unlock), we are fine updating him and keeping his overall power at the same level.
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Some of us purchased this character from loot, the loot that was offered on his release and these purchasers in my country are protected by consumer law and are classified the same as a real item purchase. When I make a digital purchase from my country you accept our country’s terms and conditions to conduct business. "No matter where in the world a company has its headquarters, if it is selling to Australian consumers wether digital or physical purchase, the Australian Consumer Law applies."
our ACCC law guarantees us rights and if a complaint arises you will loose the ability to conduct your business.
This is not levelling out the field and I don’t feel comfortable with making any further purchases.7 -
I don’t understand the change. I don’t spend a lot of money, but I was lucky enough to pull him on a $20 pack a few weeks ago (no gear). Well, I thought I was finally going to have a good showboat to compete with the high spenders. I guess I’m back to where I started.
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This is actually mental.. imagine buying a car.. then the dealership sold you wrong model would you take it back? Especially as it's an every now and then event. Also feel like you should compensate every player 1 skill plate removal to take their plate off of Waller. Cos as usual your paying customers have to make do with your mess
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blowing the board without moving the pin bar is literally his selling point. Taking that away completely ruins him. It’s the move that made me invest in him.
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So let's be clear…
The character was designed and none of the developers thought about how it would impact the game? Then CCs showed during previews what could happen and nothing changed? Then 4 months later you realise "well, that's not right!". You understand how bizarre it is? It's like people that develop the game don't even know the game and how it can impact the gameplay and this only proves why so many issues happen. We're given a product that has a good concept but whoever makes this product seems to not care or don't know what they have on their hands, and as a player it tells me i should just walk away instead of staying and accepting mistakes that happen all the time. If we list the most recent ones and compare to other games we'd see how it lacks quality.
The minimum i'd expect is a refund on coins, tp and tokens invested. People spent resources on something that was shown and apparently validated through numerous CC videos since nothing was said for the past 4 months. Then suddenly we get hit by those news and we should just accept another mistake and also be punished? Again, that's another sign to simply walk away because every other company would not do that to player.
I can understand and see the issue and the impact but i cannot accept the entire process and how players that took their time and resources are being treated. And the sad part is that i know this won't be the last issue we'll have as not long ago we also had another change impacting the gameplay due to multiply gems affecting the color gem damage on moves. It tells me it's just a matter of time for another blog telling me another issue was found months/years later without being noticed or informed.
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That just shows that you're completely out of touch with the player base and that you're completely ignoring the comments in this thread that you specifically requested.
Players spent a lot of money and resources on this character based on his configuration that Scopely put in game months ago. Now, those players find him essentially useless due to this change.
Wake up.5 -
5% of the players probably have the drip plate. 10% of the players maybe have Grayson. 2% maybe possibly have plate plus gear. Somewhere down the line not making this change now is going to hurt scopley. Cause clearly it didn’t hurt them when people were dropping money to get his card with gear. Transparency is a beautiful word. People are a lot more understanding when people are transparent. Changes are made without any real reason. Now we are using the word “balance” as a reason to change a card? Nah nah. You made the bed now sleep in it or tell the community the real reason you are making this change.
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this game is such a joke. Just in general…. New update, get other to play game….. how about test and fix. Why would anybody in this community want to recommend this game to their friends? Now on to Waller. Let not fix and stun loops, PH ko, or solo. I mean let’s see new stone cold and undertaker. Just press one button match is over, yet Waller is the problem?? I don’t get how this evens out the playing field?? You recently added 99mp, shouldn’t that be removed for unfair advantage?? Any mode those new guys are unstoppable, but that’s ok. So what about Hollywood hogan or Eric bisoff?? Both can run endless loops, and they were never fixed…. Is it because you can’t run them on auto?
Pretty much all the good game modes have been ruined besides 24 hour feud. All have paywall, that this whale can not even keep up with anymore. Midweek events have more spend than weekends:But we will change one one guy that does nothing for rest of game.
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Stop fooling everyone
Because it's not about the Drip plate or non stop cycle because people can use submission move to reduce his MP as we get the first turn not our opponent. The main reason is a lot of people have Waller and you guys just want to nerf him now.
So stop giving us the drip plate excuse because it's not appropriate.
And still if you guys gonna change that black move then it should've been to yellow cuz that his primary colour not BLUE.1 -
The character works fine, the issue is the drip plate. It’s completely broken and overpowered and it’s not offered anymore. Why not nerf that? Wouldn’t fairness be fixing the broken skill plate that very few people have? Seems like it’d be far, far more fair than changing the character with such “high saturation”.
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What's the point in spending money if in a few months you're just gonna change the character. My drip plate isn't even on Waller, but this change is terrible. I've spent a bit on this zombie event, are you gonna change these characters because you realised you fucked up? Typical Scopely knee-jerk reaction, going too far in the other direction with your "fix"
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This only proves and gives me satisfaction that there's no need to spend or worry about new plates or superstars cause they will get nerfed at any point at any time ah what a relief honestly I feel bad for others who spent their hard earned money on this sh ite game and d umb headed scopely is only robbing people watch it y'all kross plate will get nerfed from 350 percent to 35 next
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I've spent for my Grayson, i've maxed him 6ss and you want to change him ??!!!!! I don't have this plate!!! Let my Grayson as he IS now !!! Change all the caracters with stun recyclable too at this time. That's unfair to do that !!!!
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To preserve fairness I declare that's not only firpo but scopely Dev's and decison makers too enjoy!
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Terrible idea. I hope there's some massive compensation if this does happen.
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We updated the original post with some more info on these changes.
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One of the wrong decision please change carmello brey lots of card to change y only Grayson worst move by scoply
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My Grayson is 6ss max n i don't have this drip plet please refund my all tp coin token
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So just out of curiosity where does one draw the line on what is considered an unfair advantage? The endless loop can only be pulled off by having a drip plate correct? The drip plate being a PREIMIUM plate that most had to to spend $$$$ to get. So if it's now being deemed unfair, couldn't one say being a consistent spender in this game creates an unfair advantage? And really where is the unfair advantage of having a continuous loop? The only mode I see it being a problem in is showdown, where you could easily avoid waller with a drip plate equipped. Any other mode he will not spam the loop as the cpu, he will often use the the sub before any other move regardless of what moves are filled. Also isnt that where mp down props are for? To negate mp? I just don't really understand where the unfair advantage comes in? So now you're going to screw over the player base that spent the resources on him, who spent the money to obtain a drip plate, in the interest of fairness?
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The disdain that's shown for your player base is gobsmacking. We can't get bugs fixed, better odds for drops, new tours on the road to help with resources. We asked for ways to spend the gear chips and you gave us something resembling a pyramid scheme that means we recruit on your behalf. But as soon as something that offers an advantage for a tiny percentage of the people playing the game, and you guys dive in headfirst to change a character. Talk about using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Then you put out a message that I've quoted above saying you're going to do it anyway, despite wave after wave of criticism.
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I’m happy I did not get into the craze of getting Waller to 6ss… After the debacle of changing Rocker’s and Nakamura’s moveset, (it made Rocker better while Nakamura worse) nothing like this surprises me anymore.
Why not start nerfing Melo because of how he is in showdown? Take the Anti Sub off Bray and Tech Becky while you are at it?
This is why probably Scopely should have the CC’s possibly test the new characters out privately during the week before the big reveal instead of bum rushing it and have it released without any testing or QAing them the day of the release. You all say the MLCs and releases are planned 6 months in advance, but lately seem like it’s last minute and hiding behind WIP and Subject to Change almost all the time.
Only reason why I really stay in this game is because of friends I made and the faction I’m in are fun bunch of people to be with. It’s changes like this that makes me take a step towards quitting for good.
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I'm going to add that I believe this is a poor move by Scopely, and I'm not going to waste my time writing up a giant response here explaining why.
Even if I make an impassioned speech its useless, because (as mentioned many times throughout this thread already) what your customers say doesn't matter.
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i just put a badass jacket plate on his strap and ultimate defensive black plate and you are saying it would be changed and i spent so much on him money and in game coins to upgrade him this is not good decision just reconsider it please
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The smart thing you could have done was to rework the drip plate. That plate is op and you removed the ability to get it. So you know you screwed up.
So, Instead of fixing your mistake, you screw over everyone who has Waller that dosent have Drip.
Fix that plate!
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I like and agree with this change. Waller looping forever with an item that is no longer available takes the game to a bad place.
People are complaining and I understand some of the concerns, but candidly I don’t see how anybody thinks setting their phone on the table to autoplay a card indefinitely and checking back every ten minutes is what a game should be. It’s a video game, not a production bot.
Scopely, I would say I hope you learn some lessons here around quality assurance. This all could have been avoided if you understood how the game is actually played. You didn’t fully understand the implications of the drip plate when you released it, and you’ve been playing catch-up ever since. With Waller, people were infinite looping him with drip plates literally as soon as he was released. Any knowledgeable players could have told you how this would go.Thank you for making showdown one small step closer to what it is supposed to be and one small step away from “let’s see if you have this unobtainable item and want to turn your device into an RPA vehicle for 30 hours.
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