Multiply Gem Superstars Changes and Solutions (updated)

yheenan653518

Hello everyone who spent for these characters, we've decided that these characters are too good so after you spent money to get them ,we're making them worse. This is your monthy scopley "Go to hell for being stupid enough to spend money"

DevilDozer

I would like the resources I put in these cards back for starters. And once rocker came out you opened the door on these cards and never said this is not intended. You actually doubled down and created more cards that you made a lot of money on people doing pulls. So feel free to refund money to anyone that pulled in these loots. I know you won’t. But you screwed up not us. And continued to make money

Firpo

Overall, it's not what we had in mind in the end. So we did what we had to do for the Superstar Balance and game development, the way it took, and where we wanted it to be.

As you can read in our announcement, we didn't intend to nerf those Superstars like this or with this update. Thus, there was no proper communication in the first place.

Currently, we are discussing ways to keep them in the meta and make them even more helpful at 6-Star Silver.

So, as much as we appreciate your Feedback, let's be patient and wait until the final resolution.

Kakeli6858

Absolutely ridiculous. It’s not even subtle that you’re lying about it not being intentional. If that was the case, why continue to release those types of characters and advertise them as top tier? Without that effect, most of them drop in value significantly.

Greedy, greedy, greedy.

ironsheik84

I don't know what to say at this point other than bravo for creating yet another fiasco. Instead of fixing a real glitch like King Woods and Nakamura's coaching abilities, you decided to nerf top characters that people have spent real world dollars on.

If Scopley from day 1 had communicated (see that word, communicated? Let me bold it for you so you can see it better) that the characters were NOT working as intended then we'd be willing to give it a pass. However, years later with Wendi and Trish, a year later with Shawn and Nakamura, and 3 months later with Sami we're out of the blue being told it's a bug with zero communication and warning.

The entire reason this game has existed 6 years and still continues to thrive is because of us, and we deserve better.

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Reddog1520

Time and time again, Scopely dies things like this that just beg me to quit wasting my money on this game. I have had so many issues with in game purchases that this is just icing on the cake. I am done spending!

MrJibby

https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/9168/multiply-gem-superstars-changes-and-solutions

Same crap, same tune. I deleted this game 3 years ago due to this rubbish. Came back to it 1 month ago after being told by many that it is a lot better now. It sure does not look like it has got any better. Clean your act up and check, double check and triple check that you fixes and patches for the game work the way they should before you roll them out. And if it doesn't then roll them back straight away. It is not that hard to use common sense... oh wait... that's right. This company has zero of that...

SdotFiz

https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/comment/83365#Comment_83365

Nah dog. You guys get no benefit of the doubt any more. It’s funny you say you didn’t intend for this update to effect it. So you basically screwed that up too. Lmao.

Matthew801471

Not surprised you have done something like this. We spend hard earned money on your game, and you fix stuff which does not need to be done and ignore other stuff. This game is becoming a pay walled game and when we do spend you go and change things with out any update to us

Naitch440945

So you didn’t intend for the superstars to perform like they do, nor did you intend to nerf them like this. So this is all just manifesting randomly with no accountability whatsoever. I see.

Kiddkelly

Here's a thought. Refund us all tp coins and tokens for said characters. Because we all took them up bc of the power from multiply gems.

Put them all back to level 1. I guarantee I would leveled them to 6sb.

McMenemy

I'm sorry but these posters are not even in the top 3/5 maybe even 10 of the 6ss meta as they where. Lets be honest you released Regal who can do 100million turn one lol so this ballance of the game is complete nonsense to me. You stated it was a known issue but failed to communicate this to the player base while also releasing powerhouse Sami with a drip plate which took full advantage of this "broken" mechanisms 🤦 if yous understand the fix now why not just hold the release of r62 make this work for said posters while releasing a statement saying this will be fix once we have a solution to keep these posters relevant in the 6ss meta release a patch fix with it. Faith in the company is at an all time low after the Ali faction event.

BugHomie

Soo you knew this wasnt how you wanted these characters to work, but you just kept making them anyways.

BugHomie

Hey guys rocker. Naka and a year later after we sold you on their gameplay and released powerhouse sami zayn, we decided this isnt how they were intended work and they are too strong from a competitive balance. Meanwhile check out this video of william regal doing a trillion damage turn 1. Please be patient with us while we dont roll back the changes, but take a year to make them competitive again.

Florilla

Firpo, you’re making it even worse …

ElementWire

Refund every coin,tp and breaker coins put into these “broken” superstars so we can choose to reallocate where we’d like.

any other broken mechanics that you’re gonna change in a year so we can future proof our rosters?

Griffin11287

https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/comment/83365#Comment_83365

I was gonna let this go, but after this, nah. Here are the problems with this absolutely nothing response;

1. The game WAS ALREADY BALANCED. As I said in the original thread, the posters in question are extremely powerful, but not to an extent that's out of whack with other top rare superstars.
2. You didn't intend to nerf them? Are you actually joking? There is no universe in which you couldn't know this is a massive nerf. This is either disingenuous, or you guys have no idea how your own game works.
3. We're supposed to just wait and trust you while you make some unknown correction at some unknown time that is ALLEGEDLY supposed to make them better in the 6ss meta, yet, as established in point 2, there's a real chance y'all are clueless? And what reason do we have to blindly trust Scopely when they've allegedly been working on this for months without notifying people at all or, even more importantly, not even asking the community if they think the changes should be made? In the meantime, people reliant on these characters (of which I'm not one, by the way) are absolutely screwed with no compensation for the trouble.

I so badly want to give the benefit of the doubt here. Scopely has been doing a lot of good player-friendly moves lately. But this just baffles me. Make it make sense.

Okthunder98

if you were truly worried about Superstar balance, then powerhouse Kevin Owens should have been changed after his release at the time. Releasing a character in a 5sg meta that can do 10x damage any other character in the game....yea, ok....

If the multiply gem effect was not intended like it's being made out to be, then it should also not be adding to our mp or moving the pin bar by the multiplied number either. Shouldn't have two or more effects for the same gem type.

Mariasha

Honestly are you guys on a speed run to entirely alienate your player base here? There are literally no words for how utterly trash the nerf is, and your embarrassingly poor handling of it.

It's laughable that you nerf year old cards, when newer cards can hit 100+ million damage on turn one. You guys don't seriously think that anyone is buying the whole 'balance of the game' shtick?

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a realisation that after loads of players finally got useful and competitive cards after spending a significant amount of money, that you just thought nah, can't allow that, best put the losers back to the bottom of the pack so we can drain their wallets again.

Are you going to provide a list of other 'broken' cards to save peoples money and resources? I doubt it. I don't see why scopely would think that anyone would be willing to spend a single penny more on this game when you treat your players with such contempt and operate a zero trust policy.

1WingedAngel

https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/comment/83365#Comment_83365

I don’t have patience to wait for TBD. You didn’t intend to nerf them at this point, but you did it and won’t backtrack. So why should we remain patient?

KOStunner316

Stealth nerfs with no patch notes.

Only responds when the player base figures out these characters got nerfed

Classic

Soqu

"As you can read in our announcement, we didn't intend to nerf those Superstars like this or with this update. Thus, there was no proper communication in the first place."

If you didn't intend to nerft those superstars like this or with this update then why did you did that anyway?

BDC212

https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/comment/83365#Comment_83365

I get what you're saying, and here's the flipside...

You can't preach patience when its other people's money being spent with an expectation that's already been pretty much a standard. This wasn't like "oh we never intended for it to be this way thus we're changing it", this was left like this for a long, long time. It was already a standard.

I'm not spending anymore because this has proven that the company can't be trusted. You can't just change things without the slightest notification. Especially when ppl have built some of these superstars as foundational pieces to how they play the game.

To be very transparent, it feels disrespectful to be told to be patient, when we have spent time and money into playing this game with these characters, only for the style of play we've become accustomed to (again, something that's been a precedent for at least a YEAR now) just changed without a heads up.

BDC212

PS: Making them relevant for the meta should include them making a damage output that was similar to what they were putting up before.

Don't give me a trainer ability that works for another rare card that I probably would have to spend to get.

In fact, it should have never been changed in the first place.

DevilDozer

Love how firpo chimes in that we should all just chill.

firpo is like a weatherman. Not very helpful, usually wrong and somehow stays employed

tim451197

Way to screw the players over yet again Scopley. So nice of you to make pay to play players obsolete. Real question is why would you decide to screw your customers yet again? Doesn't add up should have just left it alone. What's the point of paying to get someone just to have y'all adjust them later. Just saved me and I'm sure lots others money. Why do pulls for great cards now. Thank you kindly for doing dumb stuff.

Marxus

Scopely believes the catch all is subject to change. Had you not had content creators drive purchases you'd maybe have a leg to stand on. Subject to change doesn't address your admitted false advertising which makes a charge back approval by most major banks. Apparently you don't think this needs to be expedited, once those charge backs start rolling in you'll understand the deficiency in the subject to change terms of service.

Albert918839

I look forward to the up coming power plate that I'm sure you guys have in the works that will cost an arm and a leg but makes them work the way they have from the start. Really what's the point in spending money on these SS if you're just going to break them after we spent time and money getting and building them up?

TheProdigy8199

https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/comment/83365#Comment_83365

So if I'm understanding this correctly, you knew these characters weren't performing "as you originally intended", which dates all the way back to when Wendi was released at 5SB, over 2 years ago, but you let her slide in order to move the game forward? I can understand that.

What I can't understand though, based on your explanation, is why you continued to release / promote PREMIUM characters (the kind you have to pay to get in the loot) with the same known "broken" mechanic all the way up until Sami was released 3 months ago?

Why continue to release (Paid) characters with the same "broken" mechanics & not give them moves that didn't have a known flaw? Doing this and knowing they were broken the whole time & that players would be affected, how do you not have an idea on what a possible resolution should be, knowing this would eventually happen?

This entire explanation is nothing but bullsh*t and spin. This wasn't done for rebalancing purposes. Either you have no idea how the in-game mechanics actually work, or you do but just don't give a sh*t on how it affects the player base.