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Question RE : Changes to Web Coins and Trivia Energy

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  • Im sure something similar would of been posted somewhere on here but these are my thoughts.

    Last months flash market was the first time in a long time that im sure the entire player base felt some love and appreciation from scopely, not just the whales. And now Scopely have put not 1 but 2 drastically draconic changes too the market so essentially now no one can afford anything if starting out with minimal energy.

    The weekend competitions are getting tougher to complete without spending excessive amounts and everytime we do get a competition (mostly faction ones) where everyone can complete it, the next month the points are lowered and the score required is higher. It was nice to have something for everyone that gave even people just starting out a chance to catch up to 5 Star characters.

    I understand a balance was required but the way you have gone about it is terrible.

    Here are my suggestions:

    -Unlimited energy packs for purchase like before

    -SMALL increase on prices like maybe x2 not x10.

    -The major change would be increasing the cost of rerolls and limiting the amount of them per day. So 5 regular rerolls and 1 mega reroll a day but also increased prices, so 300 WC for regular and 2000 WC for mega. This still limits the amount one person can purchase during the flash market so it doesnt crash the 'economy', costs more WC so people are still encouraged to do more trivia or buy webcoins but also gives everyone a chance to get resources and characters with time rather then money which again benefits you guys because it keeps the player base up.

    Cheers

  • Samuel1971
    Samuel1971 Member

    so is there going to be a free Roll or did I miss it?

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    I wouldn't expect to see any changes made this month. Based on how they've done the rollouts it looks like they need to take it down to do any major changes. In all honesty I don't expect to see any changes soon. The reality is that quite a few went nuts on the farming and it would skew any analytics done on the economy for it. Not to say I don't personally agree that it was too much of an adjustment but I can see from both sides.

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    Thank you. I've received the exact opposite feedback this very week lol. I try to give as much insight as I can but sometimes the truth just is going to upset people.

  • KAKTIS
    KAKTIS Member

    I'm not pleased at all. IF you're going to have those off the wall prices-then unlimited energy is needed. Or at least make the recharge energy an hour.

    I believe this will cause a big drop in players. And the market will die off. IF you wanted to drive players to other games. Congrats-to a good start. Other games already give us a big bang for our bucks and time invested. So prepare for the decline and fall of Rome.

  • Kbonez
    Kbonez Member ✭✭

    I think the better solution would have been to completely take down flash market and let the dust settle, the way it was released now was a slap in the face for the user base and it obviously received major backlash. To leave it as is, I fear this forum or any forum will continue to get hammered and ruin the game reputation (what's left of it) and put mods like you in a very tricky situation. At the end of the day, I don’t think scopely cares much as long whales are paying but sooner or later features like this will reduce the user base, if it hasn’t already.

  • Ignore the cost needed to buy the 2 energies per day , ignore the energy regeneration bug of the portal , consider the ideal case of 5 energies per day for duration of 14 days . So we have 70 energies = 7K webcoins. Are you guys going to provide the remaining 18K as gift/reward in order to max the event ?

    Nice way to introduce another ruby market in the name of webcoins

  • Rex_Craven
    Rex_Craven Member ✭✭✭

    No one has said that he cannot do whatever he wants with his game, it has simply been said that he does not listen to the base of his players who are the ones who spend money on his game...if you are okay with I congratulate you on the change that was made, but do not come to criticize those who are not happy with those same changes.

  • dagreeno1
    dagreeno1 Member

    Wait, three free energy points per DAY??? So basically you’ve worked out a new way to fleece money out of us? Great way to put more people off playing this game

  • Eli
    Eli Moderator Moderator

    Unfortunately us agreeing has no impact on if changes will be made or not, we are not devs or Scopely employees, just players moderating thus have zero input on game development. At this point you can always wait it out and hope that the many many players that build up mountains of webcoins spend them so that their balance check of analytics on the next market gives chance for lower prices.

  • VishwadeepR33
    VishwadeepR33 Member ✭✭✭


    OK so what about the energy scopely offers to us 5energy in a day if that continues there's no way we can buy anything worth even if scopely reduces the prices

  • Kbonez
    Kbonez Member ✭✭

    The only way scopely might listen, if everyone goes to app store or google play and give them 1* along with a bad review

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    The likely response would be well you can always spend money and get web coins as a bonus on the portal and they increased the web coins per dollar you get.

  • KingTyphoon
    KingTyphoon Member

    Already done. This game is getting boring anyways with copy and paste and spend events. Just coasting now and not playing to spend anymore since the webcoin store nerf. Blitz and showdown in the same week is making this game feel like a job so I'm going to take a break

  • Eli
    Eli Moderator Moderator

    That is the decision they made about it indeed. They let you get up to 5 energy per day maximum.

  • Nick704427
    Nick704427 Member ✭✭

    So I’ve been playing this game for almost 4 years now. Every month the last year and a half it seems like the players lose a little more , now we’ve lost the 5 and 15 dollar milestone for spending on the portal. A lot of us don’t have $20 a day to spend. So many of us used those first two milestones to better or roster which is becoming harder and harder by the day I don’t understand why us players in the community continue to get the crap end of the stick. Not only did those two items getting taken away from us EVERYTHING IN THE FLASH MARKET has gone up about 125% yea you see that correctly. A bag of 100 TP which was 100 web coins since the start are now 240 , shards for useless superstars are a few hundred web coins for 15 shards. You guys pile on the useless shards with the monthly keys now it’s 2.5 xs the amount of web coins needed to get even more useless shards. It just blows my mind how the most loyal gaming community around gets it stuck to us like we have the last 18 months. Also this month the chase character Dom Mysterio isn’t up to par with what a chase card usually is. Nope now we have to spend pretty much a mortgage payment over 4 weekends in the month to try and get the “weekend release characters” to make the chase card that we bust our asses for every month so the chase is actually a decent card. So many of us are tired of being treated like this. My wallet is closed. 95% of us don’t get the superstars as it is on weekend release events. Now we are expected to spend spend spend even more so we have coaches and trainers for the monthly chase characters. I just don’t get it. I own a business and I would never treat my customers the way our community is treated. I know my wallet doesn’t matter cause there will be new players who don’t understand they have pretty much zero chance of getting anything new or getting it while it’s relevant. I really hope this stuff stops but I’ve been around to long to know it’s gonna continue getting worse. Sincerely a loyal player from your loyal community

  • RealBS
    RealBS Member ✭✭

    Sounding a bit like Jack Nicholson there! 😁

    As far as I'm concerned I rather have feedback from you guys, even if it isn't what I wanted than coming on here and have the feeling that we are being ignored.

  • Nealk1977
    Nealk1977 Member

    I'll make a prediction here.

    • With the number of folks who enjoyed the Trivia last month a lot more than others, their web coin bankroll is probably huge
    • Since Scopely can't necessary take away Web Coins, I'm guessing they bumped up prices this month, along with the web coin milestones in order for folks with tons of saved up web coins to spend spend spend this month to hit the milestones.
    • Once web coin savings are decreased across the board, then Scopely will do a "We heard your feedback! We will drop the amounts on web coin prizes going forward"

    At that point, folks will be back on a level playing field and not able to stockpile like they did in April (due to energy being capped)

    As for the economy of the game, I agree with someone who posted a few days ago about how a group of 20 or so wrestlers can basically wipe out the entire roster on Turn 1. Now that's the type of economy that needs to be fixed.

    My thoughts:

    A. Tone down some of the new characters. Not sure it's even possible to do so with folks who paid money to get them, so maybe just grandfather them in at this point. Going forward, stop trying to make each future wrestler the next best one. For instance - the new KO with his 8 bazillion combo hit points. Or even the zombie round this week with ZLashley and trying to use ZOwens to beat him on Hell. By the way, I love zLashley, have him, and use him very frequently, but I have to admit the guy is way too overpowered.

    B. Roll out new wrestlers, who although are completely terrible (Ryback level of play), are required to beat certain contests. With that requirement, folks will still purchase and build up. I personally like using the older wrestlers who require more luck and strategy, vs the newer folks now who are super recycle machines and don't require much thinking. There's much more strategy using Titus O'Neil vs my example above of ZLashley with Blue, Red, Red, repeat.

    C. If A and B don't work, start redeveloping older wrestlers to compete with the newer ones. The improvements to Striker Rocky and Acro RVD were good steps in the right direction. But how awful is it now using an older wrestler (>2 years ago) against today's ones at 5SG.

  • Hornochse
    Hornochse Member ✭✭

    not true. when I buy energy at 8:33 pm the cooldown timer says 11 h 27 m left. when I check back 11 h 27 m later, there is a new cooldown timer showing 23 h 59 m left... so I can only buy energy every 2nd day... really sucks...

  • Rex_Craven
    Rex_Craven Member ✭✭✭

    Some notice from this theme? some new modification that ends up killing the market?

  • Kbonez
    Kbonez Member ✭✭

    The market is already dead

  • JD Rayne
    JD Rayne Moderator Moderator
  • MichaelW
    MichaelW Member ✭✭✭

    And the new market is just as bad.

    Also, for the people who had no energy stocked up, they had access to 5 energy a day. For everyone else, only 2. Glad to see the bosses kept the energy cap in place though.. 🙄