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A change to the leaderboards for rewards

TheBear41
TheBear41 Member ✭✭✭
edited July 2021 in SUGGESTIONS

As we have just concluded the Finn Balor weekend event, I wanted to pose a suggestion to how the leaderboards are managed on a going forward basis.


Comparing the final event scores versus the feud scores, 11 of the highest feud scores placed top 20 in the event… kudos to those 11. The other 9 who won the Balor card did a combination of spending plus talent up to place top 20.


I think there’s place for compromise with the scoring and effort and we have seen small instances of this before (specifically with the SD grind with matches won).


Could we consider implementing an effort leaderboard which is separate and distinct from the leaderboard which allows for spending that would allow the top 20 each to get a card?


Questions that I have considered:

  • Could someone place top 20 in both? Yes. Would it be fair that they receive two cards? Absolutely. Time + Effort + Money should equal reward.
  • What incentive is there for 40 cards to be distributed vs only 20? From a monetary perspective, this should encourage spenders to spend more if those other 20 stop pushing the main leaderboard because they are content knowing they are guaranteed a card for their efforts for the most part.
  • F2p…. Who cares about them? Well, we all should. Those are the people who usually provide the best content and advice for the community since they are the group playing the longest. Additionally, this helps to level the playing field to build a stronger community and factions.


I would propose for an upcoming event:

  • Top 20 overall scores which includes spending, talent up and individual event scores. Cards can range from 4sg and down.
  • Top 20 overall scores from the individual event specifically (ie highest feud scores or most SD wins). Cards can scale down from 3sb and down.
  • Remove bonus points for acquiring the chase card only to enable you to get the chase card again and ratchet up the leaderboard.
    • This could be replaced with resource heavy victory tours (which are extended 24 hours after the rewards are distributed) including enough coins and TP to level said card to 3sb or perhaps one of the class specific bags which have been available previously.


I believe this would benefit all members of the community and promote more participation for those interested in grinding for the card.

Comments

  • Donjay56
    Donjay56 Member ✭✭✭

    I feel that this was very well thought out and reasonable. There should be a place for the F2P crowd to get the card via leaderboard. As it is now, the only way that they can get the card is by RNG. There is nothing more disheartening than to spend numerous hours feuding, only to rely on code to maybe give you a card.

  • IRLGearoid
    IRLGearoid Member ✭✭✭✭

    Great post. I have been asking for this to happen in almost every feedback thread for the past few months.

    Players who play the entire feud event and put up amazing scores deserve better than to be pushed out of leaderboard places by spending in the final minutes.

    Nobody is asking for spending not to be rewarded, it absolutely should. However, two separate leaderboards would be a far better system for everyone. This includes benefitting Scopely too.

    If this weekend's leaderboard was separated, suddenly 12 more spots open up for getting the card by spending. This is obviously good for Scopely and good for those willing to spend money to get a 'guaranteed' card by placing in the top 20.

    Finally, the game should be competitive. Players build their rosters to compete with others and win prizes. A 'grind only' leaderboard to allow more players the opportunity to earn a new poster would be a very welcome change to future feud and Showdown events. Let's encourage more players from the community to compete in these events.

    If there is an issue with the number of cards that go out during an event, dial down the RNG from the milestone bags slightly and allocate the extra posters to having 2 leaderboards.

  • Mherex
    Mherex Member, Content Creator ✭✭✭
    https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/5809/a-change-to-the-leaderboards-for-rewards

    couldn't agree more well said sir

  • Daevar
    Daevar Member ✭✭
    https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/comment/43233#Comment_43233

    @Mherex

    Don't tell me you got screwed out of the top 20 in the end after that rather... excruciating ordeal we could see on 2bob's stream?

  • DaleC
    DaleC Member ✭

    All good points. In the past (like years ago) there used to be events run where you could NOT spend money to get points. It was all just based on a grind. I’m F2P so those suited me well. There were showdown events where you only got points by winning showdown matches, and not with specific, rare characters. I actually won a few of those. Now, I have zero chance of winning any event so I find myself not even really trying for the leaderboard. I suppose though, that the name of the game for scopely is to make money, so people like myself will be left on the sidelines.

  • WBMatthews
    WBMatthews Member ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the feedback! Will share with the team for future events. Thanks!

  • DKMangler
    DKMangler Moderator Moderator

    Moved to suggestions

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