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State of the Game - 5SS Incoming

Shersta
Shersta Member ✭✭✭

With the game now releasing 5SS Superstars the gulf has started to increase to a point where it is unachievable for the majority of the community to get enough resources to take multiple superstars to 5SS.


Daily a player can earn


Deadman Daily - 280,000 Coins

Daily Tour (Monday Night Raw etc) - 115 TP a day.

Showdown has been nerfed when previously we used to be able to get 8m.

Feud does not give back resources that are invested through Perks.


With the cost of perks increasing each month there needs to be more avenues for increased resources (Not just royal rumble tours every 3 months)


Some suggestions to help manage this would be

- Ultra hell mode added

- An increase of given rewards based on the League you are in

- An overall overhaul of rewards

- A timer on road matches, so we can get first rewards again after a given time.

- Update loot boxes

- Transform unused evo tokens to TP of the MLC character

Just spitting some ideas. General concern is balance that is completely gone....

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  • DKMangler
    DKMangler Moderator Moderator

    @Smits i merged your discussion with this one as its the same topic. Thanks Champ

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  • I think one of the biggest challenges is around the migration of tokens based on league status. I continue to get 2s and 3s tokens that I never use now as my rosta / league placing just simply doesn’t warrant them. If you look at the mle rewards they are stacked with them even upto the last milestones.


    I do think that the leagues give you a prime opportunity to stagger the rewards .

  • Agreed. The resources given compared to resources needed has been off since 5sb were released. The balance has been gone for several months and the balance continues to get worse as events get screwed up more and more.

    An ultra hell mode and also doubling rewards given in dailies, as well as changing tokens since 1s tokens are pretty much useless at this point would be a good start, but something needs to be done before the balance is so far out it becomes unfixable

  • I think a few simple changes to make farming more worthwhile would help balance.


    - Add a 0 to coins from loot boxes, i.e. 800 to 8000

    - Loot box TP changes - 1 to 5, 5 to 10, 10 to 25

    - Add 4ss tokens to loot boxes for opponents above 10k talent.

    Understand tokens can be a slow process, but 4ss shouldn't be where road blocks happen. Those have already become an issue with 5sb release.

  • I like your suggestions Shersta. The resource gap is becoming to large to keep up. (Unless you want to spend thousands on coins/TP.)

  • Konedawg
    Konedawg Member
    edited December 2020

    Hopefully, the team can go back and look at what resources were like when 4SS was the ceiling, and ramp up from that time accordingly. That includes:

    • Increasing loot box rewards
    • Increasing rewards from daily tours
    • Reconfiguring Diamond and Headliner Loots (or creating new equivalents) and making them more accessible again (Talent Up and contest milestones, etc). e.g. Diamond Loot = 5SS and 5SG tokens, Headliner Loot: 4SG and 5SS tokens.
    • 3SB should be minimal rarity for all pulls.

    The team very well may be working on these things as we speak, but the surprise announcement of 5 Star Silver with no other corresponding changes beyond new Rumble tours feels a bit demoralizing.

    I like some of the other ideas in thread, but the prospect of needing 50 4SG tokens, 100 4SS tokens, ~30M coin, and 3300 TP to take a Level 160 4SG Superstar w/ Level 12 moves to 5SS in the current game environment seems impossible for almost all of the player base.

  • i agree with the sugestion.

    if you want to create some balance ultra hell is good but due to new tour added its been good that you rest all the tour except royal rumble so every one got first time reward again

  • Dea0729
    Dea0729 Member

    Reduce the amount of blitzes needed and tickets needed to be spent. Change the blitz rewards back to resources like coins bags, TP bags, blitz tickets, props, health packs and useful tokens. Nobody wants keys to pulls for 20 shards of jobber characters and nobody wants endless universal turn buckles. However, adding some blitz turn buckles would help since they are rare. Can't get MP perks on blitz without pay wall.

  • Wildcoyote
    Wildcoyote Member ✭✭

    I agree with a lot that has been said.

    resources are very scarce. Showdown used to give us a decent amount but not anymore. We get stuck with many superstars sitting waiting to be leveled up because of lack of resources so many needed superstars remained unleveled.

    extra tours and dailies would help and definitely boost rewards based on league level. What is 1000 coins going to do for someone who is league 15-16..

  • colonel1086
    colonel1086 Member ✭✭

    Biggest issue for me is perks. Not only is the FTP community at a major disadvantage, but perks really put the nail in the coffin. We could at least compete with our rosters straight up, but having to spend valuable resources, without a chance at any top rewards, just to stay even, really puts our roster growth behind the 8 ball.

  • Bluffs
    Bluffs Member ✭✭

    Also, not to mention is the time factor, sure you can play thru Deadman Daily and get 280,000 coins but that is hardly worth the time investment. That is only one level on a 3* superstar, never mind 5*.

  • ghenshaw
    ghenshaw Member

    I have a couple of ideas.

    1. Make large coin/TP purchases available in the showdown shop
    2. Give players a choice of weekly showdown rewards. (Coins/TP/tokens/SD coins)
    3. Make some kind of inventory recycling option (at some cost obviously) where you can convert excess coins/TPs/tokens/blitz tickets to whatever you need
  • 1) give us option of exactly what we want to recycle and what we can trade it for

    2) stop allowing the AI to know which gems are going to drop

    3) make blitzes cost fewer tickets

  • Need to review rewards for all events, the gold and tp doesn't cover enough to level up and Increase the higher level stars at 4sg and 5sb. Turnbuckles are a useless reward, as it is pointless the perks and costs dont match the investments needed.

    The pulls need to be reviewed, to many times we get shards for pointless characters which are irrelevant. The top rewards are only for people who spend thousands on pulls which is not fair to all players.

    The requirements to take part in some events are ridiculous having to do 100s of blitz matches to meet the requirements to max some events whilst alongside that is other events which require time to do as well.

    Allow players to recruit stars at their own choice of level, makes a use for shards allowing people to recruit stronger stars with excess shards and allow players to recruit harder to get stars at a lower level meaning they can take part in more events.

    A review of the leaderboard rewards allowing a better split of rewards not just reward the top 100 players if 1,000,000 are playing maybe 10000 or 100000 should be rewarded and a more even distribution amongst this. This would release more rewards to more people allowing them upgrade their stars.

  • uRodrigo
    uRodrigo Member ✭✭

    I agree. Tour rewards should be based on league level this would help balance the game

  • Sapperjedi
    Sapperjedi Member ✭✭

    Another option is to reduce the amount of resources needed. I made this recommendation in another post.

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    Thanks for the feedback but that would make it too easy to obtain for people and balance would be thrown off in the economy but we'll pass it along to the rest of the team.

  • Sapperjedi
    Sapperjedi Member ✭✭

    What balance is there in this game? The top faction pays for their Superstars and are MILES away from anyone else (considering you all give them month long perks as well). There is absolutely NO balance.