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ACOLYTE OF DARKNESS
Hey Champions,
Darkness rises with an Acolyte that packs a punch! BRAND-NEW Faarooq awaits you at the gates to hell and beyond! Unlock him with Shards and get the NEW Seal of Acolytes Skill Plate in Leaderboards and the Prize Wall!
GET AN EXTRA CHANCE TO WIN BRAND-NEW Faarooq at 4-Star Gold!
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- You must provide feedback by [08/15] at noon PST.
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Comments
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This Is A Great And Improved Contest With The More Availability of showcase medallions and a character that it is worth going for.
The Good Parts Are more Showcase Medallions, More Contest Points in tours which make this more Free to play and an easier showdown Showcase.
The Improvements That I think should take place is Less Contest Points In Faction Competitions Because alot of people may not have good factions so they can't get all of the points from that Contest.Maybe you can put more coins and TP instead of Contest points so it is worth going for. Maybe you can add more points in the tours. For example, faction boss has half tour points and half from the boss competion itself.
Also I Think That there should be more shards in the solo Contest rather Than The tours because you get the most points from the showdown competition so if someone can't do the tours due to requirements and only they can do the showdown competition than they can get decent amount of shards
Overall It Is An Improvement But You Could Consider My Suggestions And I Love Playing This Game And It's Getting Everyday
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This showdown is all fucked up. You guys switched the requirements 35 minutes in. It was open slots all around. Now the first slot on offensive side has to be a ph attitude era and on defensive side its a tech attitude era that is required in first slot. When you go to play opponents there are opponents that don't have a tech attitude era in the first slot, I see a lot of hof techs, sami zayn bloodline tech, hhh dx army tech. How is this possible when a attitude tech is required? Those are not attitude era techs.
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I can't believe y'all thought that having different SD requirements at different leagues was something that anybody actually wanted.
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Well it's the worst showdown
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They had it like that in the blog if you actually cared to read it. The offense and defensive requirements are based on showdown league. While I agree that it isn't fun at all, especially them requiring superstars from very under-developed eras & classes, to say they switched it 35 mins in is a very ignorant take.
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I appreciate the inclusion of contest loot coins as rewards, however I find it a little backwards that you need the contest superstar to get the loot coins to even pull the contest superstar? I also find the restriction of what superstars you can use as you increase your league to be a bit too much. If it was an era/class with plenty of abundant picks, it wouldn't be too bad, but attitude powerhourse is such a weak and underdeveloped category, it just feels unfair unless you were one of the lucky ones to have PH Scott Steiner. If you feel the need to go ahead and keep the requirements in higher leagues, I'd suggest just making them either era or class dependent. The powerhouse requirement from world champion to elite league was perfectly fine and there was no need to restrict it even further.
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This is worst showdown event ever I would like to know who comes up with these ideas dumb as sh** there is no way they play the game or they have every poster for requirements like this one less event I'll be grinding no fun at all...
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Overall the contest doesn’t seem to be too bad. The tours are doable w mostly f2p charachters for once.
I’m not sure what to say about the showdown itself. Part of me likes it because it’s not an endless wall of 6ss charachters. The other part of me hates it because the characters needed at top end (top 2 leagues) kind of sucks. A lot of us don’t have a great attitude era ph, so have to rely on zAustin, who gets the job done, but if u have to take him against a 6 star takes FOREVER to beat them.
I do like the changing of requirements on the offensive side, but I would agree with others that it should be either a class or era requirement, not both.
defensive side would be nice if you picked one set and it stayed the same all the way up.
After completing all my requirements, I will probably not grind this sd like others. I’m sure there are others that are gonna do the same thing that usually grind matches for more sd coins and give up because they aren’t enjoying it.
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They have been great, only problem is that I dont really have much characters that align with the requirements. The ones that I was able to do were fun! Need more available characters I can use
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I feel frustrated that Showdown keeps changing because absolutely nothing has changed for a better player experience. Over the last few months, we've seen all of the following changes to SD which all make for a worse player experience:
- Energy was introduced rather than unlimited play. We must pay to play if we don't have all the CSS. Spending to speed up progress or have access to rare items makes sense, but having to pay to play? No thanks. Is it really worth pushing away loyal customers for the sake of these $5/$10 energy packs?
- Energy and CSS requirements mean that the grind portion of SD is now just a second spend portion of the same event. So instead of a spend and grind, we now have a spending contest and a spending contest.
- Class/era restrictions. I don't hate this necessarily, but combined with limited energy it just doesn't work. Having your defense lose matches can actually force you to need to spend for extra energy. Awful experience.
- We can only earn 1100 shards for free. For the 1st SD of this year, for example, we could earn 1400 shards. Some reasonable spending could acquire these characters within a few months (at worst) but now they are absurdly expensive in comparison.
- The SD prizewall is far worse than it was. In the past, we could buy multiple packs of shards for previous SD characters and recruit within 1-2 months. Now we only have 100 shard options, but we can't earn enough medallions for these packs.
- No rewards for defensive wins anymore. Yes, this was abused by some players, but it feels unfair to have no rewards for winning on defense but lose progress for defensive losses.
- Value for money is way down. Not long ago, completing everything and spending around $100 on a showdown scrimmage was enough to recruit the poster and a new skill plate. For these events, it costs hundreds for just one of these two, not both.
Suggestions:
- Add significantly more energy to SD events or remove energy completely. Nobody wants to buy energy to be able to take part in contests. Make it challenging with requirements by all means, but don't paywall us from actually playing the game.
- CSS should help to progress faster, not lock players out of content completely.
- Restore some value to the prizewall. This is what made Scrimmage so popular. Add 10/25/50 shard packs rather than only paywalled 100 shard packs.
Positives
- Tours, I guess.
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Class and Era requirements as you go up leagues? Really? This is a change that really wasn't needed, I hope you revert this going forward. If I have 6SS characters on my roster, and a whole bunch of 6SB, I shouldn't be needing to use 5SG characters if they're the best class\era combo I have.
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You people aren't near upset enough about this, and because you aren't, they will continue to force everyone to spend more and more. Your "polite suggestions" to what they should do is a bedtime story for them. The whales are going to keep feeding them, and the rest of us will continue to suffer. This will not change. They. Don't. Care.
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Man if this is the new way to play I’m going to save so much money… first off u limit the sd so much u can’t really do much unless u take these unusable cards up or have the super new great cards to use. I did manage to crack top 100 bc most ppl just aren’t trying.. and you make it where we need all but one guy to max or do something like 102 wins with the bad requirements. Needles to say all these changes just made it to where I was thinking about spending $200-300 to spending nothing but even if u did spend that your still a ways away from maxing the solo and getting anything useful from the prize wall..
most ppl I talked to just called this the vacation event bc it was that bad u just did what u felt like and quit so thank you for saving me about $300 this weekend by making it this bad
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The only metrics they care about are people spending their money and spending their time. Do less of both and they might listen
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Another contest another analysis:
Single roads:
The roads are very difficult in terms of passing, since the next unpopular era is used, and because of this it’s good that the opponents were not so difficult, since most do not have strong attitide era characters.
Solo contest:
It's a shame that having closed absolutely all the roads, having closed both the clan and SD events, I can't afford even an ordinary plate without a donation, not to mention a new character. It seems to me that this needs to be changed otherwise there is absolutely no point in running contests.
Such a gigantic cost of shards for very old characters is not yet clear. Six year old character shards cost the same as last month's character shards. And this cost is equal to half plate.
Faction event:
A very simple event where it was required to level up the era, and as an additional condition, the roads had points for this event and, of course, the leveling of not only the era, but also individual classes. Vesma is a good way to get points.
The rewards are very strange. Seemingly good, but at the same time, some incomprehensible attempts to pull money out by getting some medals with shards for the current event. The idea is of course a good one, only now it would be possible to make them free for getting rare shards.
Showdown event:
A controversial innovation is to introduce different requirements for different leagues. On the one hand, this is a good idea, since sometimes it can be difficult to get to a higher league with your own roster. But at the same time, why then change the conditions for the attack? The weakening of the protection as for me is quite enough.
This needs to be processed and made much easier in terms of passing additional characters.
Shop:
Prize Wall:
Very strange with inflated prices for shards for dice and so on. Again, it’s very strange that I can’t even afford a die, given the fact that I closed absolutely everything that was possible in this event.
Pulls:
I can’t evaluate donation offers, since here the prices for shards and the rest are too high.
I didn’t like free pools with 20-10 shards, at least they gave chtoli 100 shards or 50 shards, but not 5-10
New character:
He seems to be strong with sticks, but then again I don't have them and there is no possibility of them in this contest either. The character bonus is good. Well, an ordinary good character does not stand out among the rest of the characters of this class.
Let's summarize:
Good:
- tried to introduce various restrictions for different leagues in SD
- The idea with free coins for shards is also not bad.
- The new character is also not bad, as well as his die.
Bad:
- It is not possible to even get any plate, let alone a new character without a donation, taking into account the closure of all events.
- Points 1 and 2 listed in "good" need to be improved
- bad deals in the store for donat.
As a result, it turns out that the update seems to be not bad, but the greed of the developers spoils everything and, as a result, the rating goes to 6/10, since the time spent does not pay off absolutely.
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The good: the amount of rewards offered was decent I thought the amount of medallions available I thought was fair given how very little was given out in the past. I would suggest adding more elite tokens packs in the tours along with more coins.
Dislikes: I didn't like how the showdown requirements changed once you got so high in the rankings and to make things worse we had to use attitude era superstars which isn't the most focused on era and the players like myself don't have very many superstars from that era that can keep up with the superstars that we have to deal with facing on the tours and showdown matches. I'd suggest coming out with some better superstars for the attitude era that have more than one working moveset or just a great moveset in general. Kama the free character this month is terrible and I don't feel like he's worth using for anything after this month not even for his training ability. If other characters can be revamped after they've been out for a while so can kama. Either leave this era alone or make some changes EVERYONE can benefit from without having to spend money on in order to make them work.
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Everything quoted above!
The new free poster is decent and so is the way we're able to level up the monthly free stars. The rewards in the monthly shop are still a bit over priced when looking at a time/effort/reward point of view. This makes choosing what to spend your earned currency on a exercise in anxiety and second guessing yourself.
Tours are nothing special. I still love the couple of free pulls that are being thrown in here and there but we definitely need more tokens available that are necessary to take posters to 6* especially the emerald ones.
Please put showdown back to the way it was and get rid of energy. We hate it.
If the upcoming Boss Battle is anything like everyone before it since it's inception, I'm not looking forward to the lag between actions, the random teammate disconnects and the all around endless beta test that it seems to be. Here's to hoping some of it has been fixed.
Would love to see a DX vs Nation of Domination Blitz and Feud.
Also there's no reason to only have one blitz a month with all the open time between events. A 24 hour blitz a week would definitely fill in some gaps.
Hope to see Bradshaws Acolyte version added to the game now that Farrooq is here.
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I had a really good event personally, but I know this would have been absolutely miserable if I didn't hit a one-in-a-million shot. For transparency, I pulled Faarooq at 5SG on the first day of the event (so don't put me in the running), and it drastically affected how it went for me.
- So no extra shards with the bags at all now, huh? Considering the prices of the shards in the prize wall and just how few shards people got for Faarooq in this one, I do get the vibe that the Scrimmage contest really isn't the 'Hey maybe you could get a new character for once during the month' sort of event anymore and is just the same stuff we get for feud and boss events with a different game mode. Quite disappointing given everything, and I really don't think the loot coins from the faction contest come anywhere close to making up for what was lost during the other changes in this event.
- Another big one is the showdown requirement changes. Maybe this wouldn't have been too bad with another era/class combiation, but Powerhouse Attitude? After people have been saying for months how weak Attitude is in general? Might as well have told a lot of people that they were gonna waste their time this showdown. Countering it by requiring a tech attitude on defense may have softened the blow a tiny bit, but I also saw a bunch of jacked-up tech Shamrocks up on top, and while I could just spam 8m Dominators all showdown, my next best choice was Stevie Ray, who falls off a cliff at 5SG and would have been eaten alive by these Shamrocks. After that is a 5SB zAustin, who is definitely not viable for any sort of high-level play nowadays. Sure, he has the stun and could tag out, but one can't count on that for every era/class setup. That's the big way I was really lucky, because if I didn't pull Faarooq, I would have straight-up called this showdown unplayable. Thank god some people dropped their defenses because of this terrible, terrible set of requirements.
- The prices for the wall are really starting to get out of hand, especially for the shards - you know, for the characters who are supposed to be easily unlockable because of their nature of being Scrimmage characters? Lashley was the only one who had his shards be relatively easy to get and he's pretty old (comparatively) at this point, and if you wanted Cody's or Rick's I would assume one would have to cough up the cash to make up the difference. Combine with a pretty underwhelming moment, it was a rough shop that I was only really able to make any use of thanks to the Saturday challenge tour CSS bonuses.
- This was the first showdown showcase competition I needed to buy energy to finish up. That's simply unexcusable given the prior track record of these events. Everything about that event I've regularly said was fine and even a good example of how a grind event should be paced, but I found I had finished up all the bonus point objectives (and only had PH Scott Steiner and MEM Rock missing) and I wasn't even close to finishing with the amount of energy I would have regenerated. Simply put, a bad showdown was made worse with you guys fixing something that wasn't broke and - no surprise - broke it.
- You want positives? Uh, the tours weren't bad but I didn't like the Sunday tour. The 20 dollar anti-stun strap deal was at least interesting but if I'd only really buy it if it came with loot coins. I got my first Eyes of Judgement plate out of this whole mess. That last one is really exclusive to me and maybe like two or three other people.
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This really came across as a month of Scopely testing & trying things, and it didn't seem to go well. From a free character that was so lacking if you didn't buy an upgraded version to get moves that complimented one another, to pulls now seeming to feature guaranteed shards instead of actual wrestlers, to even more unappealing Showdown changes.
I myself wasn't a big fan when Showdown changed to the game picking default wrestlers for you, as a way to keep people from purposely lowering their rank. Which had the seeming intended effect of instead matching one with other characters who had quintuple the perks you had and probably double the health. The contest though, that just screamed intentional slog.
I get the idea of trying to give the illusion there was some flexibility, but that illusion gets shattered once you realize that if you wanted to actually earn points in the contest it was with required characters. Characters who weren't the exactly best dozen or so. Early on if you weren't in the higher levels you could use anyone, but you soon realize you were only earning hundreds of points towards the hundreds of thousands needed to get rewards. Once you got to the ranks where you actually made real progress, is where the game defines who you can use. And the game suddenly become a boring chore.
What made it worse, is that of the pre defined required characters was one rarely used anymore character that would return in style. A character that has a stun move. And look at that, Scopely just happens to sell anti stun belts this week for some reason. It's just too blatant that this was a situation created, so a solution could be sold for real money. A theme that just carried throughout this month too much.
It's a shame that after a run of fun free characters, we got this month's which for me has become completely forgettable. Which has made the chase character even more forgettable by default.
I'm hoping that things are learned from this month, as it's been easily the most forgettable & unappealing month in quite some time.
Oh, I almost forgot. Gatekeeping the tour for the free character that's underpowered with crap moves against one of the more brutal characters you can face at low levels... 🤨
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I feel showdowns have caused the most issues with players. The goals are not able to reached unless money is spent. The requirements can be annoying, but with the blog notification that helped prepare a bit. The milestones to get the medallions needed to get the new superstar cannot be reached without spending hundreds. I understand money needs to be made, but I thought that the inclusion of a 3 star poster at a lower medallion count would have been easier to reach. The requirements for the battles at a higher rank can be difficult for many players. There are not a lot of Attitude PH people can get easily. That made it difficult for many to even reach the basic milestones. To improve I would make the requirements easier to do. I would also change the prize wall medallion costs on some of the lower end items. I would also make it that if you are able to complete the main milestones you'd have enough for the new superstar poster. After completing all milestones before the bonus ones, the faction milestones, and the showdown milestones. I wasn't even close to the bare minimum for the 3 star poster.
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Tours
I would say that the tours were pretty good and balanced. I like the rewards were pretty good as well.
Showdown:
Showdown was a little weird at first as the offense and defense requirements changed every couple of matches, but was different. I like that we were able to get a decent amount of points. Only thing that I can say is I wish you would be able to get rid of the energy system though for those that choose to grind to max solo are able to do so.
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I dont know if the idea is to kill showdown as a game mode. If that is your shadow goal, great job. I can't think of a worse addition to the game than shifting team requirements by league. Others have said and I will pile on...between the energy, the css, and now this...why? These are not positive developments.
Glad to the the proper version of the acolytes showing up. I assume Bradshaw is coming too.
Tours are kind of whatever. They are what they've been. Unfortunately what they've been is not great. It's far too tied to having certain characters rather than just winning. Sorry, that's maybe just me. I expect to progress by playing the game moreso than by previously obtaining certain characters. It's fine for a bonus using certain people. It's not fine for the contest itself to be tied to it.
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Feedback for SD Event
Positives
- New Farooq is cool and considering the way this month is going, hope to see a good amount of decent Attitude Era wrestler released as this era was lacking good heavy hitters other than BPP who also happens to be a PH.
- Tours was definitely a good selection of CSS that was good and fair.
- I was a bit skeptic at first looking at the requirements of needing PH Attitude and contemplating if I needed to boost up A or B Tiered characters to get me through but then I realised Defense is Tech Attitude and there aren't many there that could really hurt unless you facing 6SS so I managed to get through most of my SD wins with a 5SG Stevie Ray.
- Got exactly as the blog stated with free shards which is 1100.
Negatives
- While I felt it wasn't too bad... The option of having us using current Attitude Era PH meant unless you had BPP it's a slow grindy SD... Even though I wanted to constructively use my Energy knowing that if I didn't have MEM and BPP I'm not going to be able to max the last SD milestone... so what's the point of the mindless grind other than securing high enough notoriety to get a measly amount of solo points.
- I pointed out previously and will say again the Scrimmage SD with plenty of Scrimmage Medallions offering low amount of shards was one of the most enjoyable and as it appears if something is benefiting the community then you decide to change this completely and give us something we haven't asked for. The whole thing is changed to the point as everyone has already pointed out where it's a spend to get far event but what about those who choose to grind knowing that there's a goal that's attainable but it's already clear even before you start playing when you calculate the score, you know you will fall short if you don't have each of those rare CSS like MEM Rock or BPP.
Here's a suggestion which I despise with the SD energy, the fact that there's a cap of only 16. Can this capped amount be removed and allow the refresher timer to still run so we're getting our needed amount without having to strategically collect and ensure we have enough under the max amount. I just hate the fact that sometimes I forget and collect all the energy and here I have gone over the max limit and now my "free" energy doesn't replenish because I've gone over the max. This is a sucky thing to put in place so please change it or go back to giving us max of 32 energy.
Please give SD the option to max out the SD part of the event without heavy spending should players choose to grind out the event similar to Fued having the Warscore event where people can grind to max just that part alone.
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Positives
Prizewall
I really liked the prizewall (we still need a lower priced item maybe 200 medllions for x amount of coins so we dont waste any!) Good plates, plenty of currency.
Tours
Good and varied CCS easily achievable
Solo
I liked the fact the 1m points for recruiting farooq stayed around, This rewarded my spending with a max of the competition. Would love this to be a full weekend thing.
Negatives
Leaderboard for top 10 factions, While the team in 1st get the new skill plate the ones in 2-10 get between 1k and 4k medallions which is good for nothing at the end of the event. We should have had the chance bag like usual to make it worth while!
Showdown competition
The requirements were just awful, i am lucky i managed to recruit big poppa pump and was able to max the showdown aspect however many wasnt as fortunate and the best characters available where ones that were 2 years old or worse! The requirements should never be this strict again as it will destroy what i feel is one of the best modes of the game at present!
Farooq
I like him, he looks good plays good and the skill plate is great!
Overall a decent event that would have been amazing with better requirements for the tournement!
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i think you guys should not put requrement in leagues rather put it in whole time becuase sometimes the game lags and we couldnt play it. i wish i get the farooq in this forum please guys i participate in every forum and still dont get any rewaeds i hope you guys would pay attention to free to play users
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I’m 50/50 on this event.. the good 50% was all the pw tokens you could get for doing the sd,the pw was good wish it had higher coin amounts but it was fair, also the inclusion of some pull coins was a nice touch. The bad 50% was the requirement on offense of an attitude era ph as the first spot and on defense an attitude era tech on defense first spot . I had to take up my zscsa to 6* and that was something I really didnt wanna do. If you could stop with the requirements of certain eras and class together it would have made the sd much more enjoyable.
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