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  • wwe656161
    wwe656161 Member ✭✭✭

    I think same problem having for all players and opponents unavailable glitches is still a problem for us so please do something for this showdown and give some showdown coins to all players because of we are facing that opponents unavailable problem in this three week super showdown and we lost to many showdown coins and with that aur coins also lost to refresh them

  • I like this idea. No reason we should have to spend millions of coins just to find opponents. Since they know it’s broken hopefully they work something out to atleast meet in the middle

  • DrWhargoul
    DrWhargoul Member ✭✭✭✭

    I keep getting the same opponents back when I refresh and I refuse to believe there are so few people actually playing that that should ever happen. So the fact that I have to pay ever increasing amounts of coin to change opponents just to get many of the same people I was paying to get rid of right back into the queue is pretty galling.

    But then I didn't really think there was anything wrong with Versus mode and frankly the showdown store has been such garbage that there's no reason to even try over there anymore.

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    You are grouped into a pool of players to make things more efficient. If there are less players then you will see the same people repeatedly. If those people are active you can even attack them multiple times in a row.

  • DrWhargoul
    DrWhargoul Member ✭✭✭✭

    If I paid to get rid of them (i.e. hit the refresh button), why would I want them back? Either they were too strong to touch or they were "unavailable".

  • SteveSyracuse
    SteveSyracuse Member ✭✭

    Mods can correct me if I’m wrong but I think we’ve been misinterpreting the coin refresh. From what I’ve gathered on the forum from responses back to people on this question, a coin refresh isn’t actually a guarantee that you will get new people or available opponents. I think we’ve all assumed that because that would be the ideal and logical move, but for whatever reason when they implemented the coin refresh option it must have not been worked into the code to operate the way we interpret it.

  • DrWhargoul
    DrWhargoul Member ✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't imagine they could guarantee "better" opponents (how ever you choose to define better). I would imagine that it's an RNG reset of the 2 or 3 opponents in your hopper. What I'm saying is if the pool is so small that I get the same people back, then the pool is too small. I imagine they anticipated a much larger user pool than the reality.

    Versus used to have bots when you had trouble getting real opponents. Yet another reason that Versus was the superior game mode.

  • DKMangler
    DKMangler Moderator Moderator

    The refresh should be giving you available opponents. The current issue under investigation is that you and up to hundreds of others are doing the same thing simultaneously, so any connection issue, red ring, device slowness, etc can come into play. It means the other people that refreshed and got the same opponents just got there faster than you did. Sometimes more than once

  • There needs to be a neutral ground implemented. I run a lowered defense and at times i could go hours before finding reasonable matchups. I could easily spend millions of coins trying to find a match that isn't 5 star ZAustin, ZKane, Hogan, or Socko. My roster would get flat lined trying those matches, so i find myself not playing for half the event. The OP suggestion works for the top tier players that have the wrestlers to run through any matchup. Lowering the coin refresh is good, especially if hundreds of people are refreshing at the same time. My suggestion is that if after X number of refreshes the server makes a made-up pairing of 2 wrestlers, that obviously meet SD M/F requirement, and scored off of the above average of your last Y number of won matches.

  • Mariasha
    Mariasha Member ✭✭✭

    As there is an issue with matching on showdown events, which is now acknowledged by mods, I have a suggestion for a temporary fix.

    We know from previous show down events that they are pretty much unplayable for the first day and a half at least, as players rush to collect points.

    As a really simple and temporary solution, until the main problem is fixed, why not extend showdown events to five days or a week rather than two days.

    This would alleviate the strain on the servers and matching process by spreading the volume of players out over a longer time frame.

  • DKMangler
    DKMangler Moderator Moderator

    Thanks for the suggestion mariasha. You'll be glad to know that a resolution is already u. Development to be released with the next big update. Thanks

  • Mariasha
    Mariasha Member ✭✭✭

    Ah that is good news DKMangler! Thanks for the update :)

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  • Bluffs
    Bluffs Member ✭✭

    Great that there is an update...hope it removes Showdown entirely and replaces it with something better...

  • Bluffs
    Bluffs Member ✭✭

    Showdown needs fixing period.

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    It's not a glitch its simply a product of how the matchmaking system works.

  • Figured this was a better place than starting a new thread. Another helpful addition to the showdown would be team setup. That is we could setup a few tag teams in advance of entering showdown so we could quickly change between teams (specifically targeting the bonus characters - or in some cases a team you'd use to face zAustin or whatever).

    The issue is there seems to be a tiny window of opportunity to select an opponent before they become unavailable. If I could click on my roster and select team 2 - HOF piper and HOF bella - I could quickly pick the easy opponent and not have to go to the trouble of individually selecting each (I made a mistake and chose wendi hof and didn't get the extra 40k points - as for some reason there were no bonus points for having wendi hof?).

    Be nice to have the option - kind of like setting up your feud roster, but now its your showdown roster teams

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  • wwe656161
    wwe656161 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 2021

    This has become a big problem to us to play the super showdown because of 5SB,5SS superstar in showdown opponent so please give us one super showdown mode like we should get only our league opponents and this thing should be changed now like if we have highest superstar only 4SG we should get only 4SG and below that superstar and we don't want to face now 5SB character

  • wwe656161
    wwe656161 Member ✭✭✭

    Please increase now the super showdown level to 20000 and please change the cost of refreshing the showdown limit

  • Hey @wwe656161

    I understand being frustrated with facing higher level opponents but it doesn't seem like a fair overall to set everyone's opponents in SD to only facing equal rosters. The SD is a competition on an individual and faction level so allowing everyone to only face equivalent rosters and achieve the same level of rewards as those who have spent a large amount of time and in some cases money. If you want to get to the top levels of rewards you should work to build your rosters to a level where that makes you competitive.

  • wwe656161
    wwe656161 Member ✭✭✭

    I agree what you said but how can anyone face 5ss superstar with 4sg superstar

    And if I work and did 5sb but how can we defeate 5ss superstar with 160000 health and maxed perks or please reduce the coins amount of refresh the opponents

  • RealBS
    RealBS Member ✭✭


    I almost entirely agree with you. Nobody complaints about facing people who have 2 stars character on defense, so its only fair that higher level players appear once in a while. But, and there is always a but, its not really fair that after a certain level at least half the opponents include characters that finish you off in a turn or two. Also its kind of odd that Sockos, trickster Macho and those type of god like characters are so rare and hard to get but when showndown events come around its nearly impossible not to get paired with them...

  • wwe656161
    wwe656161 Member ✭✭✭

    Yes If we get only one or three times that 5ss superstar but the all showdown goes on same after reaching only 500 notoriety

  • @alexdiver at no point did I say anything about spending money to compete, work hard, grind and develop your roster. I know plenty of people who don't spend a dime but have managed to get themselves 2-3 5SS.

  • @wwe656161 The answer is you can't, nor should you be able to... Personally, I wish the refresh cost would be reduced as well tho.

  • You didnt directly say it but to get to 5ss level you need to spend as the rewards handed out are a joke

    I mean your faction needs to win 15 fueds overall to get enough coins to go from 5sb to 5ss

  • Droosies
    Droosies Member ✭✭

    It doesn’t resort to that at all. I have a 5b Rey Mysterious that I busted my butt for. Over time I’ve added medals to get his gem defense to 93%. I am able to Turn 1 several 5s guys because they can’t kick out of my pin attempt thanks to my high gem defense. It’s a matter of using what you have. If they have a 4g ZScsa, they can attempt to skip turn them to death. It’s about scouting opponents and picking your battles.

  • Droosies
    Droosies Member ✭✭

    If the only time you get coins is through feuds, that’s on you. There are daily events that net you coins. Theres a ton of career tracks that give out tons of coins and tokens to level up. The newly implemented Faction Store has TONS of money available if you spend wisely. I literally made 455k today. I haven’t spent a dime on Scopely for over a month and in the last week and a half I’ve netted over 25 million in coin.