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BIG MONEY FLASH FEUDS

JD Rayne
JD Rayne Moderator Moderator
edited March 2024 in CONTESTS
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https://wwechampions.scopely.com/2024/03/28/big-money-flash-feuds/

Hey Champions,

The Storm is Coming, so hop on this ride, and let’s chase it! Get BRAND-NEW Jade Cargill and other AWESOME Rewards by playing Flash Feuds and participating in rebalanced Competitions!

GET AN EXTRA CHANCE TO WIN BRAND-NEW JADE CARGILL “THE STORM IS COMING” at 4-Star Gold!

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  • I hope i get her #WM40 #THESTORMISCOMMING

  • dipzy12344
    dipzy12344 Member

    Hoping for a better point system this upcoming feud. Keep up the good work Scopely. And take care.

  • CardenasAucapan
    CardenasAucapan Member ✭✭✭

    Sorry to be THAT GUY, but man, you saw that nobody liked these changes and you are still pushing them on the community?

    Regarding your justifications, the whole opportunity for the community to get the Poster for all time zones in each Warscore Competition is just meaningless when the only ones who can even aim at it are those paying for the Manager Pass and no one else. This changes nothing.

    And “Create a clear advantage” for the whales? That’s ALWAYS BEEN A THING ON THIS GAME. There’s no need to make something clear when it’s been obvious to all the players in forever that spending money CLEARLY gives you an advantage in every event in this game.

    I hope you made some substantial changes to make this meaningful for the vast majority of the player base and not once again lock us out of rewards crucial to better our rosters fully knowing the 6 Star Gold characters are coming.

  • BoostedEG
    BoostedEG Member

    I had this same problem with another game and they kinda did the same thing so we all would go on strike and not play/sign in and it took a while but they finally got the hint no one spend/ play at all or big events and trust me it will get there attention. Poor communication on how to get points or where everything is for events or for example this event I have to go through each star to find which one does starfall or immobile there not a button or option like other events that separates

    I have been playing this game for over a year Almost 2 I did spend but don’t anymore and it’s hard not to sometimes but even spending I never got anything good really and even now I’ve never pulled a star during event. I have so many stars close with shards that can’t seem to get or some with none that I never get I do the 55 pulls and get the same ppl over and over maybe do like the 6star and make shards available to stars we don’t have or ones we want…

    I’m going from lvl 17 to 18 and have all completed but the 800 feud match’s I think it took me a month to do the 600 limited tours and I play daily but I’m only at 75 lol the rewards for lvl up isn’t that great so why it takes so long? Idk like the game but same time getting old some days plenty to do others nothing.
    idk if it just me but been getting kicked a lot and losing and wasting health packs. Not that I don’t have enough but hate when winning when not easy sometimes and have to try and try it’ll say I’m not connected to Wi-Fi when not even on it or have good connection and freezes

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  • Kingo_ahmed11
    Kingo_ahmed11 Member
    edited March 2024

    this is the best Feud Prep Talent Up I ever seen it l love this

    Maxmum 30 million l loved it

  • Provide free reward #wrestlemaniaXL

  • If 2 million is the new 20 million, shouldn't the milestone cap be 10m instead of 200m? I understand you're giving huge points towards winning with specific wrestlers but in the new system you're completely out of luck if you don't have them whereas in the old system you could just grind out the points regardless of who you had.

  • Bazza4444
    Bazza4444 Member ✭✭✭

    Like all changes ,it's basically trying to adapt and get use to the new way in playing flash feuds . My only concern at this moment is if some of the player base don't have alot of the css for the big points ,they will be left behind and find it hard to compete for good rewards . Also if possible ,would like to see more chances of winning some of the new plates that came out recently ,like the B.o.a.t plate etc . Ps thanks for the clarity in the way the new systems works compared to the old

  • damonx
    damonx Member

    I love jade cargill contest and she join Naomi and bianca belair to beabeat up damage control at wrestlemainia and jade cargill made her official smackdown debut ♥️ awesome

  • I found that this event has been pretty good I enjoyed the new feuds first I enjoyed the focus more on the css stars the warscore pts and and pts from limited tours were not really outrageous requirements which is always good I think this whole event has been very fair and fun plus I managed to get a fair amount of jade shards so far. Definitely enjoyed these flash feud more than the last ones.

  • Kevin980397465
    Kevin980397465 Member ✭✭✭

    You can still grind it out. They give you 5x the points for the first two million warscore. So you get 20 million points towards the faction battleground competition. You then get 2x points for every warscore point. So 1 million warscore nets you 2 million battleground competition points. So if you do 10 million in a fued you get 20 million battleground points. Over 4 fueds that's 80 million battleground ground competition points plus the original 20 million from the first 2 million that is 100 million battleground competition points. That's half of the points need to max that competition and that's not including the points for bonus superstars.

  • Kevin980397465
    Kevin980397465 Member ✭✭✭

    YOu guys need to get rid of the +99 MP start for contest superstars from previous month. It's all fine and cute if you want to do it for tours, but people that didn't get those superstars should not be penalized that heavily in a fued or showdown.

  • Bbooch
    Bbooch Member ✭✭✭

    “Create a clear advantage for acquiring and using a variety of Superstars, while still providing the Rewards you are used to grinding Warscore for”

    This right here is why there is the backlash. Warscore gave good prizes and was pretty much the last thing in the game that you could “play” to win rather than “pay to win.” This new system takes this away. I suppose at least you are admitting it.

    By the way, you’ve lost all right in future to say anything like “we are listening to the players.” No one is happy with these changes. We let you know on mass. You don’t care.

  • MattyD180
    MattyD180 Member

    Really disappointed I missed out on the 20 for 20 loot pulls. I went on the portal when the contest launched to look at the offers and I’m sure it wasn’t there! Annoying it wasn’t on all weekend so I could get it the next day.

  • Bazza4444
    Bazza4444 Member ✭✭✭

    Flash fued has become alot harder to max . If you don't have more than half the css you won't be able to max it really, maybe a change of the warscore x2 to something like x3 or x4 will give all players a chance if they put the effort in and be rewarded for that . Scoring on average is around 800,000 per fued . Basically 2 feuds depending on partner which at x2 would be 3.2m and hour. So basically in a 8hr feud if you go hard at it for those hrs without the css needed you will be only hitting 25.6m and the 4hr feud 12.8m . Apart from this ,its good to see changes ,but maybe a little tweak here and there

  • CaseyPlatinum
    CaseyPlatinum Member ✭✭✭

    Please end events 1 hour early. Here’s why: with the new event lock it is now forcing me to remove members from the faction before leaderboard for faction reasons. A few members who were told due to zeros/low scores they will be removed had decide to lock our leaderboard with points just seconds before kicks. After we allowed them to stay until they collected rewards. This has happened 4 times now. Until it’s fixed, unfortunately do to a growing trend we are removing zeros or under performers before leaderboard to have room for new members inbound. It will create a negativity but this is the route we will be taking.

    Please ends events 1 hour early to give us time to sort this out. Thank you.

  • Webb73
    Webb73 Member

    I have to say with the contest you knocked it out of the park. The fued, solo contest was great. Thank you for the fued weekend. It was challenging, yes it was but it was fun and the points was there and the rewards were there. I hope this fued setup comes back around. For me nothing negative I can say.

  • Sheisserick
    Sheisserick Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 2024

    So.. The new beta scoring system, would be the thing worth commenting on here, for me.
    As I don't follow wrestling, I don't know who Storm is, and have no opinion on her.
    Tours were fine. 👌

    You opted to disclose the thoughts, behind the new beta scoring system, in the blog. This was really key for me to understand, what is important, and what is not.
    For those that missed it, or had trouble with the maths, I will summarize:

    • 1-24 millions This is done fairly easy with x5 and x2 speed.
    • 24-44 millions can be done by using 1 free or super easy CSS each flash feud.
    • 44-54 millions is the normal grind, at 1/10 speed with x2 for first unique win.
    • 54-101 million require more of the paywalled CSS.
    • 101-200 millions require all the brand spanking new paywalled CSS.

    This means a few things:

    • The casual players, can now reach 44 millions fairly easy. (4-5 brawls each feud gets you very close).
    • Its crucial, to make sure you dont miss out on any of the CSS, or your "normal grind" will essentially be extended with +50% Poor aussies have a flash feud at 2 AM to 6 AM.
    • The normal rewards is roughly 50 million, so the 54 million milestone is extra,
    • With 65.000 for a unique win, and 30.000 for beating a 6ss, lineups should be made sort of like gauntlets. 1 Big "sure win" character, and all the tiny giants you have.
    • If you have just a few of the extra CSS, you can breeze through the normal grind, with minimal grinding.
    • Im not in a position to judge, whether the milestones past 54 is "worth it" for the whales. 150 looks rather sweet to me though?



    Don't touch the x2 for unique wins though. This is the bread and butter of the grind for FTP and more casual playerbase.

    Overall, I went into this flash feud with very very low expectations, but surprisingly found myself pleasantly surprised? At this point, that's considered a much needed win!

    Regards
    Sheisserick

  • Salman123S
    Salman123S Member

    FEud points still need betterment,

    Like increase the points multiplier from 2 to 3 or increase first time win bonuses ,

    With this new system no f2p can even reach 100m

    This game has a whole base of f2p players too , and U wouldn't want to lose them all by treating them like sh*t (respectively)

  • KitsuShel
    KitsuShel Member ✭✭

    Personally, this was the most enjoyable flash feuds that I’ve had for a while. That being said, I did have all of the css except the new card. Though I had multiple faction mates missing 5-7 css and still maxed through grinding. I really like when event rewards are actually attainable.

    I enjoy events that require you to play the game and not just spend, even though I’m definitely a spender. Faction feuds and Boss Battle are my favorite events because I have an amazing faction that works together, which make it’s more efficient and fun.

    All of that being said, I really find the lessening of weekend character shards to be disappointing. I know multiple people who spent little over $300 and will still be nowhere near recruiting shard amounts.

    I mean, I would assume the developers need to have a good balance of things to make the game desirable to both sides of the coin, both spenders and non spenders. If free to play see that they have no chance to get something by grinding, they’ll play less or give up on the game. If pay to play continue getting less value for their money, they’ll ease up on the spending.

  • GBeskow
    GBeskow Member ✭✭✭
    • Flash feuds during easter wasn't ideal. I understand the timing was tough with easter and also wrestlemania next weekend but it could have been done in a weekend prior.
    • Requirements were pretty good and not very restrictive except for the monthly CSS. Having an extra female feud was also positive and the way it was scheduled, with 2 female and 2 male feuds in a row was perfect in all aspects. I do hope it continues this way next month.
    • New warscore was actually well balanced. The only negative aspect was the amount of bonus matches required, i'm not a fan of 4 CSS wins during flash feuds as time zones can be bad sometimes. But in general it was really good designed.
    • Prize wall could use some balancing. I'm not a fan of how it is currently. Prices are too high and the rewards don't justify the cost. Shards should be cheaper, especially the ones from older posters, like a December poster costing the same as a last month release is unreal, not to mention the december one had 50 less shards being offered.
    • Other aspects worth mentioning: thumbs up on the surprise Jade freebie and the 20 for 20 offer, although i hate using portal for purchases. Tours with fair requirements are always nice. Faction event could have a stretch goal with something special as reward outside leaderboard aspect.
  • mike2334
    mike2334 Member ✭✭✭

    I think for the most part bumping the points up was a big improvement but still not quite there. It's relying to heavily on css the way it is. Most people will only realistically only have the lowest one in each that give the lowest points. It needs to be all the same points for all of them except the very top one which is the weekend superstar or other super rare ones. I think it also should be x3 per points in battle. I think the thing you aren't grasping at before this change came any roster any size if they put in the work and sacrificed their weekend they could grind out the milestones and now it's like if you don't have all the css or most of them you can forget about it.

    The tours were good seemed very fair. I did like today was any striker or showboat so it wasn't so limiting to just 1 specific superstar or 1 class. Would like to see more it wasn't so limited to an era as it really isn't that many great females in the game so if it was showboat and striker of any era that would be a huge improvement.

    The prizewall seemed just like they always are. Did like seeing you did give players some free medallions to claim in store but the items in prizewall still seem a bit high.

    All and all like I said huge improvement but still not quite there if you want to keep it like this. Everyone myself included would just like it to go back to the way it was but it seems like even with the heat you got from last flash feud that just isn't going to happen.

  • ExceptedSeven
    ExceptedSeven Member ✭✭

    Tours were fine

    Faction competition was fine

    Feud was fine but the feud perk of nerfing one color move and gem has gotten stale. Would rather see certain gems for moves buffed instead.

    The battleground warscore comp was better but it's still paywalled which is always going to leave a bad taste in my mouth because you used to be able to grind your way to the max milestone. I played most of feud 1,2, and 3 and after getting my css in feud 4 I was about 28 million shy of the 200 million. No amount of grinding would of made a difference so I just stopped around 7 am instead of feuding til noon.

    Prize wall is meh. Most the good shards to far to expensive to get. Things like fury 2 medals are way to expensive.

    In non weekend event requests I'd like too see the newer hof tokens added to some sort of store or prizewall. Especially since you put hof Vader in loot recently. Imagine getting him and not being able to move him up until the hof events next year.

  • DC1
    DC1 Member ✭✭✭

    It is nice seeing a new Poster once again in the game. From the previews I watched JC seems top notch.

    Feud times are just tough to complete all of them with my schedule. It made it even harder since there was a holiday this weekend. Had there not been a holiday, I might have been able to work on the last feud to maybe hit 150 million, but it is, what it is. I hit 100 million with mainly feuding on the 2nd one. CSS is also pretty tough too. I did my best to complete the ones I had. It was mainly the "Any poster" matches.

    In future flash feuds, if you are going to have bags for plates, any chance you can have one in the 100 million warscore? Just a suggestion as I think it would help out others who like me are not able to play all 4 flash feuds.

    The tours were pretty good. Nice balance of fun and challenge. I hope we start to see even more 6-star silver tokens in these future challenges. 1 or 2 pending the difficulty seems out of date at this point.

    As far as the event store, I took a chance at a move damage ultimate and to no surprise I only earned a 40%. I should of went for resources, but I took another chance. Silly me.

    Weekend event was fine but to be honest spending time with family was way more important than griding this game.

    Any who, bring on the last week of this MLC.

    -DC1

  • Biglove198138
    Biglove198138 Member ✭✭✭

    I liked it i got as far as i could go with what had, this is way better rewards worth grinding for , nice changes , i am happy most in my faction are content with changes

  • Overall the event had its ups and downs for me. The tours and the flash feuds were doable and I got some decent inventory like some money and evolve tokens. But as far as anything close to getting a new character we’re not happening. 10 shards a bag is too meticulous to grind for anything and the type of shards to get from the bags are a crap shoot. I knew getting anything new was not going to happen. I would suggest some loot coin chance wins in the flash feud contest rewards. Where a bag or prize can be a chance of 1 or more loot coins. Kind of like the shard bags that are random amounts with a certain range. My other suggestion would be a chance during Wrestlemania season to somehow exchange shards to acquire a smaller amount of shards of another character that is relevant during the Wrestlemania event like for example Cody, Roman, the rock, Seth Rollins etc. both new and older versions of the characters.

  • D0ngz420
    D0ngz420 Member ✭✭✭

    Where to begin with this one. First off, thank you for finally remembering that Female Showboats is a class that exists. I'm not exaggerating when I say that it's been TEN (10) MONTHS since the last female Showboat was added to the game - Torrie Wilson in May 2023. That means for the entirety of the 6-star Silver era, this is the first Showboat that's been added. Female cards are obviously added to the game less frequently than male cards, but yall really gotta balance these classes better. I went back and double checked how many cards have been released for females, both paid and MLC since Torrie - there were 5 Acrobats, 4 Strikers, 4 Powerhouses, 4 Tricksters, 2 Technicians, and now 1 Showboat. Why are Technicians and Showboats not getting any love? Anyway, it goes without saying that Jade is obviously the best Showboat in the game right now, which means it's going to be hard to pull her - didn't seem like many in my faction got her.


    Tours - Not having Sonya unlocked yet, and not having Showboat Bayley really screwed me over for CSS bonuses on the first tour. Did what I could with Acro Bayley. Didn't have a top tier Bianca for the Normal part of the Challenge tour. Kairi tour was easy of course. For the Sunday tour, I appreciate that both Showboats and Strikers were allowed for the CSS because getting a good female Showboat in this game is my white whale.


    Feud Event Structure - After all the negative feedback people left last month, yall decided to double down and stick with the Flash Feud changes. Wow. But, most of the problems were solved. Point structure was definitely better, getting the equivalent warscore rewards did indeed take less time than usual, leaving stretch goals that were mostly CSS related. This is the part I still don't like, as they require so many rare characters to get anywhere on these bonus milestones, as there's not enough time to grind out warscore to get to the upper limits. Still, I somehow had enough to just barely make it to 23/25, which was farther than I thought I would get. For all intents and purposes this is definitely a huge improvement. I feel like the x2 warscore should be increased to x3 to at least make it a little more attractive to grind, though.


    Milestone Rewards - proper amount of evolution tokens are back, AND you added extra, including 6SS tokens? GOOD! Chances at skill plates in those bags? GOOD! (I got a King Sheamus Crown and Acolyte Seal, although the first bag at ~50 mil only gave me 50,000 strap parts, boo). However... no Ultimate straps? BAD! (I know we got 6 straps last month which might have been more than intended, but why are we now being punished with zero?) The general shard bags that were given throughout the event? BAD! (How is 10 shards of a chase character like Trickster Asuka or Showboat Bayley or Acrobat D'lo really going to help anyone recruit them? WHY is 10 shards of Trickster Kairi a possible reward, when she was given away for free just months ago?). Anyway, even with the missing points on the Sonya/Bayley tour I was still able to hit the gold chest, so at least that's fixed. On the old system I was unable to hit the gold chest in the last two Flash Feuds in December and January.


    Prizewall - As usual, most anything good is outpriced if you're not dropping fat stacks of cash. Was surprised that 50 Bubba Ray shards cost 10 medallions but 50 D-Von shards cost 21 - is he really THAT much better?


    OVERALL - I still prefer the regular Feud system to this new Flash Feud format but at least a lot of the rewards are attainable now. But can we please get some Ultimate straps back in the rewards next time?

  • DearYou
    DearYou Member ✭✭✭

    What a weekend, eh?

    Well, to start with probably the hottest button topic - the latest rework of scoring and the battleground competition. Personally? Absolutely love it. If you got a bunch of css or are a big grinder (like myself), I found it an absolute breeze to max. Got a bit unlucky on my rewards which is what it is, but to me the pure dedication to grinding to get there compared to last month is a massive improvement.

    Plus, poked my head around some faction mates, wanted to try and gauge how many people maxed compared to last month's 27. Have one teammate at rank 526 with 203, so I think having over 500 players max compared to 27 is a massive step in the right direction at least.

    On the other hand, hearing some people got to about 150 while still missing 7 or 8 css, so (in my opinion) it still shows that event is largely grindable even missing CSS. Sure, it's definitely a bit of a commitment, but personally I think the only people that would complain about this are people who think they should get everything free just for logging is. Is what it is.

    I enjoy the continuation of the card being in warscores and the overall battleground. Was great to work with my teammates to take first in 3 warscore contest as well as the overall battleground. While I wish the rewards could be more widespread (which I mean, what could you reasonably do in that regard) it's nice to see your faction mates be able to grind and get rewarded. I really appreciate getting to play with some of the best dedicated players in the game. <3

    Tours were pretty accessible and painless, so that's always fun and enjoyable. No complaints there.

    This card is definitely a tough, tough get for a lot of people. Always a rough feeling for the people who still dedicate a lot of time to grinding and playing and still likely hundreds of shards short of recruiting by the time this is over. That coupled with the holiday weekend I know a lot of people were checked out mentally and I can't really blame them to an extent.

    Overall, I think a super solid and fun weekend. Massive improvements IMO is the feud scoring department. Wish the shards were a little bit looser. Not like I'm saying "give everyone the card" but always kind of a rough feeling to have a weekend where maybe you're lucky to get 75% of a new recruit.

  • Hello you going to rebalance the flash fued I appreciate it.

    But this is very difficult to grind

    Battleground contest combined Is good but warscore is contest becomes worthless

    You need to put rewards on worscore competition

    99+ mp system is not good

    Top s tier superstar doesn't need that buff

    Thats buff need b or c tier css superstar

    Beacouse s tier take clear advantage with that buff

    Faction milestone should need to change

    No skil plates samparate loot

    Not good flash fued loot coin bag

    10 10 shards bag make those bag worthless

    Not possible to collect 50k + flash fued loot coin

    Make a chance to go above 50k +

    Tour b c tier css superstar need extra buff to beat s tier superstar

    No chance to get css superstar

    Only option is loot pull

    No chance to complete shards

    New scoring system make difficult to grind

    Warscore gives 2x point in battleground event that's need 3x or 4x

    Thanks that's my all point in noted in playing fued 👏👏