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Make the feud grind worth it again.
This encourages people not to play the game.
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Honestly only 27 player reach 400 m
the new score system is not good if you have no css you cant reach a lot of milestones its make you spent your money i spent 300$ to have some css and have nothing at all it dosnt make the player want to play the warscore should be more pts and css should be less points and the amount of 400 million should be reduce or you should put more css And faction points was way too easy to have it was like less then hour and you have finish
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Well, now that most things have played out, I'll try and share some of my feedback from the perspective of one of the whopping *27* people who maxed the battleground event.
Awful. Just all around dreadful design from top to bottom.
I like to think I generally try to look at events outside the scope of me. The playerbase at large, and just everywhere this warscore/css rework is brutal.
Full transparency, I have spent mostly very little this month. Got lucky getting Becky on a 7 pull Friday (we'll cycle back to this), but no Naka. No Bray. No Roman. Missing 60m in CSS points, feuding almost all of feud, everything with a max promoter, 2x speed, steps, etc.... 414m. And heck, I did my CSS this morning with a few extra matches to hit the 400m and just went to sleep. For the people who *do* have all/most of the CSS, there's still a massive grind element that just leads to massive burnout. I'm a regular person with a regular job so to roll right from work Friday into what feels like a feud marathon, I'm friggin exhausted by Sunday afternoon. It's not healthy. And like. For what? Where are the class tokens? Where is the ulti strap for the new card? Sure I went for the 400m mostly out of stubbornness but the rewards *aren't even good*.
And the leaderboards for the battleground overall? 250k solo. We used to complain about the 500k being pathetic for flash weekends and now we get to commit a whole weekend for the value of 25 loot pulls? Are you serious?
But then we cycle back to the other side of the coin. For the massive percentage of the playerbase who can't make major headway on the event, it's just deflating. I've seen so much frustration from people who can't make much progress because they aren't swimming in all the premium CSS cards, and because you cut off a ton of rewards, why bother? So you don't even make the grind really worth it for the people who can do it, and you destroy any reason for people to grind otherwise. It's just bad. Like many people have said, maybe just scaling up scoring isn't a bad call. I mean I don't *hate* the idea of this rework, but the effort required for it this weekend it's really not worth it.
I'm happy to say I did it but would I do it again under these rewards? Absolutely not. A joke.
So going back to pulling Becky. So you get a million points for that right? Plus I did all of 14 pulls this weekend? And I'm barely 200k over the VHS tape milestone? What? I see all over Discord now how many people are miles away from the tape milestone, so not do you destroy the warscore grind for people, you make it so that come Sunday, here's a little more salt in the wound.
This lack of quality control at this point is beyond sad. Brutal that all this under the umbrella of celebrating another year of WWE Champions, you've done nothing ostracize more and more of your player base and get more people to hang it up. Please. For the love of God, listen to your player base for once. As someone who has spent way too much time/money/everything over the years on this, it's getting to a point even for me the siren song of hitting "Delete App" sounds better and better. Woof.
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This event was trash. Can you give everyone the rewards in the battleground competition event for the people who didn’t had it out or get the rewards because it was a paywall event. The warscore was trash. Raise your points and don’t ever do this point method system again. Thank you scopely for ruining the one thing everyone loved
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Really tired of playing this fued. No fun part in the entire game. Never expected this if this is going to be hard then make milestones rewards easy
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Now the solo contest points are off. The gold chest is supposed to be the top free milestone. I got every point from the tours only missed the points in the 192 mil feud milestone and even with those I wouldn't even reach the silver chest milestone. And I bought the 4.99 pack so have extra points from those couple loot coins. How hard is it to do simple addition seriously
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It was a terrible event. You basically turned feud into an awful grind like showdown. There have been some good changes lately. This was definitely not one of them.
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New Feud Format - Terrible. I spent a good 10 hours playing this game this weekend to get no good rewards. I didn't even get enough solo points to get the "gold chest" in the solo contest. I suggest a rework on the points or revert to a different format.
If you are going to stick with the format, there needs to be better rewards or better rate for the warscore. I heard people with ALL the bonus CSS were not getting the top milestone in the feud contest. If I was a player to spend every weekend to attain the newly released superstars and couldn't max events, I would feel greatly unappreciated and disappointed.
Tours, technicalities, prize wall - all within the norm. No comment here.
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I like the idea of combining the warscore and superstar competitions, but the execution left a lot to be desired. Without every css, the amount of grinding to get anywhere near the top milestones was ridiculous. Plus, the solo points were not calculated correctly, I did 2 mega pulls and am still 110k points short of the last “free” milestone. I have NEVER not hit the gold chest in the solo contest, with less spending. All the goodwill you guys built up over this last month just went out the window. This has to be the worst feud of all time. I usually try to find some positive in these things, but I just can’t this time. The loot pulls were garbage, the faction contest was broken, the solo contest was broken, plus there were technical issues with the feuds, especially the Saturday morning and evening ones. My whole faction was getting red rings, kicked out of matches and just unable to start the matches once in a feud. When we got kicked out of a match mid-match and then came back in, our superstar had 1 health and the opponent was full. I really hope this is not the way of future feuds, because it’s my favorite mode usually.
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This flash feud contest was the WORSE feud contest in a long time. The new scoring system is such BS and you have to have a pocket full of money in order to compete now in flash feuds. I used to be able to max the feuds easily and didn’t really give a sh*t about the CSS part. Adding the CSS into the scoring system for the feud warscore is the worst possible decision you guys have ever made. Whoever came up with IDEA needs to be FIRED ASAP for this dumpster fire of a flash feud. Only 27, I REPEAT 27 people maxed the contest and I bet half of them are content makers for you guys that have access and can easily get the new required CSS. You guys ruined the best possible decent thing that was left in this game.
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I second this
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The fued was something I looked forward to it's a lot of fun. But this weekend I was excited for 4 fueds but once I got started the scoring system has made it harder for people who don't have the contest players. This is the event I looked forward to but I still played and grinded. At least it was a whole weekend of faction boss that gives nightmares
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What more can be said...
You were told very clearly the match didn't add up. But it went ignored as usual...
Only 27 people maxing the event is disgusting.
I don't mind the scaling of the points, but you left the milestones EXACTLY THE SAME!! Something had to be saying "hmmm if we scale back the scoring by a whole 90%, and leave the milestones the way they were... how will people make up those points?"
We need this to be better, and we need those millions of points now made up, or at least give us the rewards we all missed out on because of YOUR mistakes. I've not only missed out on hundreds of millions of coins, and evo tokens, other resources etc... i missed out on the VHS tape that would have seen me max that event, which means i miss out on all of those rewards as well!
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This flash feud was nothing but a train wreck combining the 2 contests and scale back the scoring was the most unintelligent thing that has been every done it makes it grind impossible if u don't have the contest super star players and even if u do have them you still wont be able to max and makes the grind not even worth it and makes a player less enthusiastic to play the game. myself included i would rather read a book or even do something else than to go through this grind the previous scoring with 2 separate contests and the original scoring methods was at least worth the grind in the war score. please do not keep this scoring method revert back to the previous one at least with that people will have enthusiasm to grind for the milestones. ign nickko200395
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This event is horrible. Why nerf the match scores? I had every css ans still fell 70 million short of maxing the event. At roughly 1 million per fued its pretty much undoubtedly. It's so much worse for people without many css and downright disgusting for f2p players. Who there honestly thought this was a good idea?
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Happy Birthday….
Saying that a celebration of characters that were good as female legands were drastically needed….
Tours were as usual acceptable minus missing points for the gold bag…..
I spent so cash doing my part….
So how exactly do we take the fun out of feud….. Let’s lower points obtained, and increase the over all points needed…..
So people in different time zones definitely cannot max, either can people that work….
I get we were in for a bad time with all the good ups, scopley needed to remake money they lost…. At player enjoyment expense…..
Ranked 560 at the end before all the spending from people that need to be on top and No GOLD CHEST….. a bit ridiculous I say
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@ScottGoBlue said everything that needs to be said in this post.
Terrible event. That's all I can say.
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The fact that you can only achieve the milestones at the Feud Event with almost all CSS does not correspond to the fair play idea. The points you could get by fighting were far too low. The way this feud went, it takes away all the fun. And also in the solo event, more than one million points are missing in order to get the gold box
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I normally get silver or at least near it and with only Seth, master drew, lita, and maybe 1 other any I didn’t even get half way ended around 87,000,000 of 400,000,000. Somehow I think this format could work but needs serious reworking. But over all the fued didn’t change just made the ccs required and way more time then the avg player has I spend at least 4 of 5 hours each fued and maxed the faction fued. Plus beat a bunch of 6 bronze and silver superstars. So overall I don’t see a difference other then rewarding the pay to win players and destroying all hope of the don’t/can’t pay player of getting anything decent.
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Feud used to be fun then little by little scopley had found a way to make it dreadful, specially this lady flash feud, worst possible ever, as far as scoring, what exactly was the point of such?
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I seldom comment on the game and really am not a fan of the doom and gloom and "the how horrible the game is statements". The game isn't perfect but I enjoy playing it for the most part. This entire mlc has been pretty good in my opinion. This weekend however was a sad end to what had been a good anniversary celebration. The new ideas for feud were not bad, in and of themselves. The issue was that they were not balanced when it came to the scoring. To max the feud would basically require you to have all the characters including the new Becky and still feud for almost every minute of every one of the flash feuds. That is not practical, or an approach that would drive participation. Also the scoring for the regular contest was also off with not enough points to reach the traditional free milestones. I would suggest balancing the scoring and rare css requirements better and giving the feud another chance before scrapping the new approach.
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You destroyed the Flash Feuds now. No more Fun.
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As a long time player this new feud format is not very good and made me less motivated to play feud this weekend. The point scaling is way off. The rewards for time put in are not worth the efforts. You have to have alot of the css to get anywhere in milestone rewards. The old way worked just fine for feuds. If you decide to keep the new format the first time wins and the overall wins against opponents depending their stars that needs to be scaled higher and the overall rewards need to be little bit better
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In the words of my kids when I tell them to help clean up...."this sucks! " if you need more understanding read the thousands other posts!
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Overall awful. Feud and contest. When 27 of the 10000 top 100 faction players hit the max of 400 million. Completely ridiculous. I've been playing this game from just about the beginning and some great changes have been made but this completely garage.
Like most of the community I'm 2 milestones short of the free milestone. How? If free how? Make this make sense. Scopley listen to community and fix these issues asap.
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Ok so here is what free shards and milestones look like. And after grinding butt off top 10 or 20 each feud and top 10 overall css. I cant remember a weekend i havnt spent at least $100, but this may be start of a new trend of saving $. Definitely does not encourage me to spend.
COMPLETE waste of time feuding at all.
From this you should know how I felt about this fued and my regret for even participating rather than make other weekend plans.
HAPPY 7th ANNIVERSARY to Scopely and Player base. What a way to end the celebration to remind us of how far Scopely has come and how much they value providing a good entertaining product for us all to spend our time and money on and get little to nothing in return. How far we have come together in these 7 years.
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Not sure what went thru the heads of people in development of this game as see them to have only one goal in mind asking the game unplayable. First you changed boss battle and that wasn't to bad overall. Then you switched showdown and that was a joke with the energy limit in place other then that it was tolerable. Then for some God knows reason you decided to change the one mode in the game that a majority of players like to all most unplayable. You have no chance if you didn't have 90% of the css charecters to max this event. The scoring turned what was always great and something for people to see how high they could get to watching the grass grow snooze fest. Just some feed back there is a moto out there if it isn't broke don't fix it and feuds where not broke. So let's see gold chest not attainable with out spending now check. Un taxable without 90 percent of the css or better check. Garbage rewards unless you hit those unreachable marks check. Making it so if you don't have the players don't play check as that's where it is headed. If it was me in charge I am issuing a apology to the gaming community for this bad change and that we will be returning to the scoring that most have enjoyed since the game came out.
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Couple things regarding feud and the new battlegrounds competition 400m is a bit of a reach for anyone that has all the css. Easy fix should be to add more points to the css I reached milestone 22/25 so I had a good majority of the css missing this months chases naka, bray and Becky. I feel if you had more css like any Becky during the womens matches or any “insert name here” and have either a limited grind aspect to it or unlimited for 1.25m points each it could help. I honestly did what I could with all my css except Seth and Lita because there wasn’t a point since I was so far from the next milestone. If you want to keep people engaged get a grind aspect going to help the lower spender or non spenders compete. This model was good for someone who was able to recruit all this months chase characters so you continue to reward those that spend who don’t really need an extra moment or plate. Put something on for the little guy to achieve these plates in some way unlimited grind with any Becky for instance during the women’s feuds and do the same for the men’s event as well.
As I stated I achieved the 22/25 milestones on the battleground comp got all the solo points in that and am still about 1 million solo points off from getting the free milestones and all the shards plus the tape for this months collection event. I was lucky enough to spend enough this month to get some of these chases but those that cannot spend or wasn’t lucky to get these chases are probably even more short on this solo contest for this weekend. To resolve this issue put more points in either the tours or the early milestones for the battleground comp or do both. Having most of the css in the battleground should get you a bit further in the solo contest bonuses I would think.
As Forrest Gump would say “That’s all I got to say about that.”
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Remember the old saying " if something isn't Broke Don't fix it" well in this case flash feuds weren't broken so why did you have to fix them. This new scoring system sucks it takes an hour and a half to get 1m in feud points. In flash feuds most factions have a high feud point minimum like 50 million. For this feud . Most guys got 10 million minimum points. We like getting at least 30m in each flash feud. Plus the perks that decrease a certain mp sucks when your best guy use a move because his mp is depleted. Feuds used to be fun but Scopely does what Scopely does and F*cks everything up. That's my feedback. Scopely Sucks.
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Feedback for Flash Fued Event:
Will start by addressing only 27 managed to hit the 400m warscore. The first time flash fueds were introduced, it was an utter hatred where it's split to 4 different timings where you practically needed to give up 2 nights of sleep if you wanted to achieve what seemed like reasonably good rewards. Overtime, it started getting better where Free steps and Promoters and increased scoring made such a difference to what would have been hours of grinding. Introducing Warscore was great where it was something that was doable with few hours of fueding. When you start tweaking this and I get why you want to, in order to change things up. I am all for change but again I don't mind no change if things aren't broken. The unfortunate situation is your players get to go through an undesirable experience so it was very early on that we could see this was going to be a disaster, the scoring should not have been changed and left as is. Not every one has every available CSS unless you actually open it up to Eras or Class but if you make it character specific needing the actual character, sure if we don't have them then we should grind but don't make it to the point that it's nonsensically unachievable. I can go on and on but I think will stop here as what's done is done, only hope Flash fueds starts to get better other it's just going to be another do what I can and gtfo.
I will end the MLC thinking about how fortunate you were to give us S Tier cards at the start of the month followed by 32 free pulls, so will put this mess of a flash fueds behind me.
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