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I'm so confused by what's going on with the new reward structure for this Flash Feud. Did y'all really cut the 5-star ttokens rewards to 1/4 of what they're supposed to be???
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This scoring system is absolutely abysmal. What is it with you guys and fixing things that aren't broken?
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The IDEA of combining the Superstar and Warscore competitions is actually really cool to me.
But when you combine it with the new scoring system? In execution, it's...legitimately terrible. It's like you scaled back the scoring by a factor of 10 and then forgot to change the milestones to match. Awful.
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I can't believe how little thought went into this to make sure it calculated properly before it went live. Weekend event is ruined and it's not going to be fixed.
Feuds and Flash Feuds have always been a grind, but the rewards were good if you were willing to put in the grind. Now that's no longer an option in a lot of players' cases, now feud is like every other event that requires you to have rare CSS'es to get anywhere. If you don't have the rare characters, you just can't get a lot of the rewards. This is horrible. I've enjoyed grinding feuds with my faction, but I feel completely unmotivated for this one with what they've done to the event structure. I thought the changes to the last Flash Feud were pretty bad with the 4 separate warscore rewards, but they somehow managed to make it way worse.
I'd also like to point out that the 101,999,999 milestone has LESS 5-star tokens than usual. It used to be you'd get 25 emerald, 30 diamond, 40 gold. They divided this up into 4 because they wanted to split the rewards across 4 warscore competitions last time, so it became 6 emerald, 7 diamond, and 10 gold. They didn't even stop to consider that they would need to raise these rewards back to the original values, they just copy-pasted them in from the previous feud and called it a day. Embarassing.
I only pray they don't ruin regular Feuds with this event structure as well.
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ScottGoBlue made a good thread breaking down how absolutely messed up this event is.
https://community.wwechampions.com/discussion/9843/flash-feud-event-css-event-not-scaled-right
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Oh my God. I thought it was bad, but seeing you break it down like this @ScottGoBlue...it's truly mind-boggling. Thank you for truly exposing how impossibly botched this execution is.
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I encourage all the Scopely devs to read this and realize how impossibly bad they botched the math on this.
Seriously, I legitimately think they scaled down the scoring (for reasons no one knows) and then forgot to make the milestones proportional. Even the fact that the max is 400m, which worked something approaching reasonably well if you really grinded in the old system, supports this theory. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so depressing and infuriating.
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Easy fued to skip this weekend.Thanks Scopely for giving me a free weekend off!
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I got to agree this new scoring is BS
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Take down this crappy event or make sudden changes asap before next flash feud. Whole prize structure is destroyed atleast make 200k points first time win instead of 65k.
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This whole feud structure is absolute BS. So basically we need to get more points but we will earn less points? Also the 5* tokens are 1/4 in milestones, where's the rest? Devs have completely screwed flash feuds with this. It needs immediate changes before the 2nd flash feud starts. DON'T TRY TO "FIX" THE THINGS THAT DO NOT NEEDS FIX,FLASH FEUDS WERE FINE 2 FLASH FEUDS AGO,FIX THE REAL ISSUES INSTEAD.
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Frankly this is the worst flash feud iv known in 7 years of playing. Not only are the points nerfed, but the milestones are out of reach for 99.9% of the community, and totally unrealistic and beyond any f2p to get any decent rewards. Why change something which wasn't broken?.....Oh yeah, change it because scopely are too greedy and not happy with low spenders in game
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Agree idea is good but warscore being chop like this is too much...I guess we have to pay for the mistake that we did get some free stuff with all the mistakes that scopely did ...but cmon is to much I don't want to feud cause I am doing the same as always and didn't even get to 10 mil...you can't make us pay like this. For the mistake that you did ...feud is a joke now why I should play if I can even get the requirements that faction ask...when the warscore is a bull....t...what the points to have roster if I can't event score ....OK put 400mil.to max but let the warscore like it was to make progress because like this I don't want to play at all
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There is really nothing good about this event. Even if the points weren't scaled down, how many folks would have scored 400M points not to talk of now that it has been scaled down and made the game totally ungrindable and for a lesser set of rewards still. Not much thought process was placed into calculating the scoring system for this event. Glad I stopped playing the shit after the 1st hour
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Ruined boss now ruining feuds. Well done. What’s next? Only letting css score in showdown events? Needing 100 faction members to do 5m showdowns? 7th anniversary mlc has been great but the changes to boss and now feud is in danger of ruining whole game
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Change is good, trying to keep things fresh is much appreciated by this player. The idea behind combining warscore/css is great. I also kinda agree with scaling back the scoring, especially if it’s something that will help keep the game mode running smoother. Giving people a chance to feud more to make up for missing css is also very smart, as it will keep more people engaged and actively playing the event. Kudos on all that.
The issue is the scale on which everything has changed for it. The scoring being reduced so dramatically, combined with the highest warscore milestones we’ve ever had ( could be wrong, but 100m was the highest before, and even with all the css, that milestone is now 140m away ) It’s completely unrealistic. The perception that you could get enough warscore to compensate for missing a css is no where near a reality. I really hope that scoring changes are changed, or that positive effect of change will turn into a massive negative, turning people away from what I consider the best game mode.
Aside from the fact that there are less rewards than we previously received when they were separate, the individual warscore rewards are also a joke. Awarding the card to one person- fine, but then faction points to everyone else? Really? Give people more reasons to play, not less. “The juice isn’t worth the squeeze” couldn’t be a more appropriate sentiment right now
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Recent changes are making the game less fun to play.
We ate multiple showdowns per month that next to no one likes.
We ate changes to feud and showdown perks.
We ate changes to Boss which meant grinding levels with rare superstars for the gifted few.
We ate (or ignored) THE worst spend event in the history of the game a few weeks ago.
Basically we are full. Change flash feuds back to how they were in terms of scoring before the next flash feud or you are likely to lose a few of your cash cows very soon.
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New flash feuds are madly ridiculous,
Like for real what was in Devs mind when they reduced the scores by 5x and increased the max milestone by 8X, absolutely terrible. no f2p or average spender can even come closing to maxing and don't get me started on tokens and rewards they cut down by 10X , if this what feud is gonna be from now then I sure as hell quit
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The new scoring system is totally ridiculous. The old scoring system is way better than that.
The milestone in the flash feud can be better.
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absolutely agree
if you don't or haven't spent your entire income to get the CSS you skrewed .
on top of that all the promoters I grinded for are essentially uselessness.
hope this is a once of or feuds are going to be as pointless as boss battles. not saying the time changes suck as well
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I don’t need to play the entire event to know this is horrible.
Warscore should have stayed as a separate entity with its own rewards. Last month was perfect, 4 warscore competitions with their own rewards with 100m points as the max. That’s say 2-3 hours hardcore feuding per warcsore event to max which is great. Now my progress is based solely on how many CSS I have. No matter how many hours i feud i have zero chance of maxing as I’m missing too many requires superstars. I am feuding more for less in return.
The previous superstar contests weren’t too bad for flash feuds as we’ve had a grind element for the past 3 months ‘win a match with any powerhouse’ that made up 3M contest points which is need up being as valuable as 3 missing CSS. Why move from this model when it wasn’t broken? Too many players maxing? I’d love to know so please enlighten me.
all I’ve seen across every discord server is doom and gloom over this structure. It wasn’t broken. Leave it alone.
i usually buy steps for feuds to enable me to rank highly in the warscore leaderboards. Steps wouldn’t help me at all this weekend so I didn’t buy them. Thanks for saving me £20. Not a lot i know but if 5000 players share my outlook then we’re talking some decent cash lost.
I like the idea of giving more of a push for first time wins. Locking one’s progress behind a huge previous paywall is a low blow and if this is the new structure I imagine my days and a lot of hardcore feuders days are numbers since there’s nothing to gain here. We feud for long hours to gain a benefit. We don’t do it just to hit the same rewards we got last month for playing a fraction of the time.
This need a huge overhaul as it’s not working for anyone that I’ve spoken to. If you wanted to kill feuds this was the way to do it so if that was the aim then congratulations you did it.
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absolutely agree
if you don't or haven't spent your entire income to get the CSS you skrewed .
on top of that all the promoters I grinded for are essentially uselessness.
hope this is a once of or feuds are going to be as pointless as boss battles. not saying the time changes suck as well
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For many of us, the timezone difference for flash feuds was hard enough to overcome, but at least there was that "carrot" of rewards.
This current scoring system has taken what little enthusiasm I had for feuding at 2am in the morning completely away.
Im all for change to freshen things up, I just wish more thought or "testing" was done before going live with these things.
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Absolutely don’t like the new scoring systems in the FF….no fun at all this weekend ,thanks you Scopely !!!
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I like trying to motivate players to participate in all 4 parts of flash feud.
i don’t like the scoring as it’s confusing. Looks like rewards have been cut way back while time commitment is way up.
i normally love feud but this new system has me checked out. I was a 100million+ in traditional system. I’m at 1.5 mil and already de-motivated for this weekend.
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By taking the grind out of feuds is a great idea to me. I don't have to spend all weekend in the game too score. I thank you and my family thanks you.
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I’m on board with the format changes that were made however you dropped the ball on the implementation. Scoring of the Milestones in the Battlefield contest either need to be adjusted or Feud score need to return to where they were before. Could even meet in the middle on the feud scores but I know math is hard.
Leaderboards for the Contest have been nerfed ridiculously. Used to be if you finished top 100 in the warscore you would get a good amount of solo points but now it’s not even worth anything but a top 1 finish. And also what is with the faction points in the Faction warscore contest leaderboards. Also if it is a Faction contest rewards should be per Faction no on an individual basis
The Bodacious Feud Chests being different prices is also a negative change. Go back to them all being the same cost.
return the Class tokens back to the previous totals. Or better yet increase the amount of Diamond tokens since they are so stingy
i guess this is a subject to change contest. All points from battleground contest and every CSS for tours and still 1 million short of the gold chest. Not even the silver chest. Garbage event you receive a 0 out of 10 and we are all now dumber for thinking maybe these changes would work out.
I will no longer spend on these events and if these changes stay and carry over to regular feuds it seems my weekends will be free for more constructive activities. You should just end the game and call it quits because your company is garbage.
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Feuds were the only mode remaining that was still fun to play and the scoring changes took away the carrot that made it worth grinding. I hope scoring goes back to normal next feud.
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Suggestion: please consider resetting the 10x points for each flash feud , and increase the limit from first 2mil to 4 mil.
Explanation: without any premium CSS and not resetting the 10x points each feud - to earn all solo points that are at the 191mil milestone someone needs to grind maybe 1,100 to 1,400 matches depending on promoters. Is that even possible - probably 55 hrs of play at 3 min per match.
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