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Why has the warscore competition been split in to 4?
Are you not aware that not all your players are in the US?
2 of the 4 flash feuds happen overnight in the UK meaning they cant really be played by most folks in the UK unless they are awake between 2am and 8/10am. Now we cant even make up for that in our warscore in the 2 feuds that happen while we are awake?
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Why has the War score been split in 4 separate feuds. Americans have the advantage over other countries. It's an unfair system for everyone else
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It blow me away how little u care about the players u want use to act like this is job with garbage rewards and no pay this game is to point I don't even want to open it anymore not sure where u guys get the info from this is want the players because I am sure most don't like it but why would u care when all u think about is your pockets and the money poeple spend I am sure I am walking away from this game vary soon because u poeple don't care
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I liked that this was something different but the feud times suck (as they always do in flash). I like you can get partial rewards for smaller milestone but at the same time it doesn’t benefit most players. Hopefully you’ll ask the community for feedback on flash feuds like u have with auto mode cause general feeling I think you’ll get back is they just suck compared with regular feud. The game is seemingly heading in the direction that players HAVE to grind more-for-less which is just alienating your player base and destroying your casuals desire to play. Surely you want more players playing not less? Or should that be corrected to say “you want more players PAYING…”
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Flash feud timing suck, as always. Breaking the warscore milestones up into 4 separate milestones is an astoundingly tone-deaf move. I suppose anyone that has work or sleep can just go fuck themselves then, huh? Feuds have ALWAYS sucked, the rewards given for the time needed is terrible. You guys have been making them even worse recently, first the change to perks and now this. Are you actively trying to kill the game? Honest question there, cause that's what it seems like.
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Hate rewards for each individual feuds. Can’t expect us in app non stop for 3 straight days. Not fair to all players with some happening overnight. Please go back to old format. Do like the extra bonus levels you added in a few months ago. Also like the womens feud moved out of Saturday morning slot in America.
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Ooooh. Something new - Exciting!
So the biggest change to this would be the splitting of the prize wall - we will get to that.
Tours:
Challenging, but not impossible. Had to use a few props to get there with the contest characters, which usually means, it hit the sweet spot in difficulty.
Prizewall:
I like the fact that the prize wall is split between 4 feuds. It needs tweaking though.
Possitives:
- It differentiates flash feuds from normal feuds, making them more of "their own" contest.
- The more casual player, can now compete in 1 or 2 flash feuds and still reach those important tokens. Previously it was: "hit 50 mil milestone, or you basically get scraps".
- This will help the smaller players grow.
- We get to earn 4 times as many HoF Ultimate Straps. Previously it was 1 at 35 mil, now we get one for the first 10 mil in each - huge plus!
Negatives:
- Hitting the 70 mil for the big bag of skill plate/moments is near impossible in the time each feud lasts.
- The placement of the big bag, should reflect how long time each feud lasts:
- Feud 1 = 8 hours - 70 mil for big prize
- Feud 2 = 4 hours - 70 mil for big prize
- Feud 3 = 6 hours - 70 mil for big prize
- Feud 4 = 5 hours - 70 mil for big prize
- It should be representative, on how long time we have to reach it. Avg of 10 mil pr hour, to reach it seems more reasonable.
- Timezones are tough for many of us. If it was only tokens in the event, it wouldn't be a big deal, but you placed points needed for the Bronze Plaque in each flash feud. Basically in EU we have to get up at 3 AM to play, or forego the chance of getting the Plaque.
Suggestions:
Put the Bronze Plaque progress in a separate joint milestone tracker, that combines the scores from each feud, and leave the economy rewards in each flash feud. This way, we won't sabotage our "holiday Haymaker contest" if we only do 3 out of 4 flash feuds.
You could even put the big 70 mil prize in that same milestone tracker?
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Rewards are crap. There’s no need to have 4 - 100 mil max competitions. The payout is not worth making this game my life for a weekend. The loot is just as bad. Leagues mean nothing in that respect, and you have to have a rabbits foot up your ass to really get anything. The loot is misleading, since you get 20 shards. 4 star silver doesn’t unlock at 20 shards, so it’s pretty much bait and switch, which I should know by now. Feud perks do make it more strategic, but also just as frustrating when you require stars with the perks that negate any benefit that they bring.
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Flash Feud:
This is by far one of the worst flash feuds we have ever had. 4 warscores instead of 1 warscore is ridiculous. There are those that cannot do all 4 of the feuds and have always counted on the combined warscore to get that moment bag instead you have us having to hit 70 million in 1 feud one feud in which was only 4 hours let alone having to do that 4 times to get those bags. We all don't play this game 24/7 and shouldn't have to make this game a second job to play. I feel that by doing this there are going to be more people that are not going to want to continue to play this game if it continues this way. This game seems to be getting more pay to play than free to play. I get this game only exists to make money but shouldn't be the only way to play this game.
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What's going on with the scoring? I did one 40 pull for Taker shards, and have gotten EVERY POINT POSSIBLE from both tours and the Superstar Contest, and I'm 600k short from the milestone with the plaque. Seriously guys? There's at least one contest a month now where you clearly did the math wrong.
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Points are very low for this event. I'm 2 levels away from the free milestones. Spent a small amount, should at least be at bonus 1. Hopefully we get some in an in game message to make upmfor the error in points.
Not a fan of the split war scores, move it back to the former 1 war score and make extra milestones, as you've done in the past for those that go for scoreboards.
Not sure why, but saw a lot of red rings this event. Slowed a lot of people down.
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Had every Bonus from the Tours, had every Bonus from the Superstar Contest, had 9 loots. Did not reached the silver Milestone? Scopely are you kidding me? What should I do? Sell my parents? This can Not be serious
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So I’m not a fan of the split warscore competition. Shouldn’t have to do every feud in order to get all the faction points.
I’ve earned all Solo contest points without spending points and am not even at the silver chest. I’ve also used 9 loot coins. Either something is missing or you screwed the players
Prizewall cost are ridiculous. Another PW that requires ridiculous spending to get anything
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Seems as if you got your math wrong for the contest solo points. You might want to fix this.
plus the last match in hell mode is only a 5sb. Why is the last one weaker then the hard mode and only paying out 100k
maybe just run 1 event a month until you get everything right and then maybe do 2 and so on.
currently its a joke and your events are being ruined by incompetence
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As far as time and schedule, here in the U.S it wasn't an issue for myself. Being in a very diverse faction of Americans, British,European and Southeast Asian players I was able to feud constantly. My Faction mates did make some comments about feuding instead of sleeping but that's just part of playing what is a live American based game.
It felt like there wasn't enough time to get to the 50 million mark unless you could really nose down and grind without any distractions. Anything that took me away from the game for an hour or more caused me to instantly know I wasn't hitting. The scoring for this feud was just bad for anyone who couldn't dedicate their time.
The rewards for war scores being basically quadrupled was great, but again only if you could dedicate fully to the feud time and you had no distractions forcing you away from the game.
Getting points each time you won with a Powerhouse was good. I hope to see this aspect rotate between classes and become a regular fixture in feuding. The rewards however being up to rng and heavily weighted with trash was absolutely insulting. Considering how much dedication we were asked to have to have, any "chance" at receiving good to great rewards only went to anyone who was able to really play & pay for the chance.
So all in all the feud event itself wasn't bad. The war score rewards were the best thing. Keep that system for future flash feuds. Rotate classes for the individual event.
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I feel this entire event was a botch and bad execution
Fued: warscore should be achievable 100mil was too high for first time 50mil would have been a good start
If you are going to separate into 4 separate warscores have a bonus tour leave the main warscore as a weekend contest to accommodate people who have to work during a section of fued
Yall are already aware of the faction contest and overall event points being far under what they should be
The overall feedback for this event on Facebook and in faction chat is extremely unpleased we feel cheated
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1. Solo Contest points are crazy short. Maxed everything and haven’t even hit silver.
2. 70mil to get the plate/moment reward seems pretty high. 50 mil would probably be better imo.
3. The faction points glitch feels like it should have been fixed quicker. Having to wait til the end of the contest makes it hard to know if you’ve hit faction minimums.
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this was great for ppl getting the feud bells and whistles and getting the op feud ss , average player that spends a little good rewards to a point low coin amounts , pw prices a bit high for what's there , shortage of solo points , i mean it is possible to grind idk if 100 mil a bit much for average player in a 4hr period . I think its time for league based rewards, some how getting 20mill coin in a prize wall when i lost like 8 hrs sleep doing it doesn't seem rewarding , Over all great feud , contest / war score needs to be a bit more rewarding for the grind for everyone , in sentive to play is a big factor and not spending whole weekend to reach for greatness
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I read through everyone's comments and seem like they have reported all the issues. Expressing my frustration will be pointless then. So here is a suggestion for flash feud:
#suggestion: rather than making the flash feud similar to normal feud with more time restriction over the span of 2 days, perhaps make it last only 1 day as normal feud. Then, adding a condition like if people feud within a specific range of time, or with a special character during that time span, the points will be doubled (or other rewards, but should be related to the warscore to make it a "flash"). Once doing so you can have maximum milestone higher and maybe more people willing to pay for premium characters, but still allowing all of us to play.
The prizewall should not be splitted into 2 kind of medallions, rather just one. Most people who can have high score already have the premium characters, so it doesn't mean anything if they feud hard just to gain more shards of those. Not to mention that even with those shards some people will still be miles away from getting the characters
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I feel like the shard cases aren't worth the prize tokens. The loot option is decent though.
Several fued bugs and crashes, but thats the usual...
I feel like I'm really short on points and I'm not sure how...
Tours and contest superstars was good I think.
A lot of people here complaining about the about of fueding this week... I don't understand. No one is forcing you to fued. Either you do or you don't. I enjoyed having the actionable milestones even though I didn't reach them.
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We'll be sending out 1.4 million solo points to all players who participated in the weekend contest League 7+ overnight,
- Points will be credited to your existing total, so we won't require you to log in to claim.
Additional details will be sent to your in game mailbox
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Having 4 warscore competitions was not fun especially when the feuds have different amounts of time. During feuds 2 I knew it'd very hard to even hit the 70 million in 4 hours so I stopped playing and that attitude carried over into the last 2 feuds. Hit about 30 million and moved on. Prize wall is very overpriced. The lack of points to hit the gold chest milestone in tours is a mistake that you keep making. I know you've said you'll send out points but I'd rather not have it come to that.
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And what happened to the feud 1 faction points? I thought that was supposed to be fixed before the of the feud?
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Interesting weekend to say the least. Yeah obviously lotta people complaining about the point screwup, I ain't gonna harp on that, I have faith that'll be rectified.
Well, we finally got a little shakeup for flash weekend that has been desperately needed. Personally, as a notable-ish feuder, top score in each feud getting the card is a MASSIVE W. LOVE THIS. Would not be mad if this stuck around in the future, although the points for outside #1 all kind of scale to typical flash weekend points which is kinda stinky but could be worse.
That being said, as things played out, it's very interesting. After the big dogs like 2bob or myself come in and get a first and the card, it doesn't really....feel like there's much more to play for, personally. The 100m to me isn't too bad (although I can understand the gripe from most people), and I appreciated that the faction points were only 20m which I think is completely agreeable. I was mostly still hitting my 100 for the coins to goldfish for Sherri shards (which I got a good chunk of - nice!) but still hard to find the motivation when you kinda already got the end goal.
Also wanted to touch on perks, which kinda ties into this weekend. I dunno if the current cycle of feud perks is gonna renew and keep going into the next MLC, but I'm kinda over them. I get it, it's something new compared to what we had, but the cycle of crushing one class and this weekend in particular making one class (and specifically one card) super busted is just unhealthy/boring game design.
Like getting first in a warscore is cool and all, but having to get it by speed farming matches just using TNM Taker ad naseum for 4 hours? Pretty boring imo! I've liked the inclusion of more +mp perks in line bonuses and I hope that keeps going but giving a still pretty recent card in a move damage meta 200% move damage is just kinda lazy design. I dunno, I know feud is always just mindless grinding to an extent but this weekend was particularly comical.
All in all, love the changes to warscore to give people more of a reason to engage with every feud. LOVE the card coming back as a warscore reward. Wish perks would be reexamined but hey can't win 'em all. Excited to see if this kinda of scoring style comes back next month!
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1.4 million?
Edit: wait this is faction points. What is this for?
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My two cents on the separate warscore comps is:
Good idea, but rough execution. It bordered on impossible to get to the moments, especially on the short feud times. The scores should have been proportionally lower for the shorter times. Also for the love of everything, please give at least a +1 overall MP perk. I absolutely hate the new perks, again not in idea, varying things is good, but in execution, it's overcompensating.
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Tours - were fine. There may have been a question mark about if majority have HOF Austin but he is pretty common at this point.
Feuds - ran pretty smoothly, they were quite restrictive, made worse by the consistently poor “perks.” But no major complaints.
Solo contest - someone messed up here I guess? I cleaned up everything, but at time of writing am 1.3 million away from the gold ‘free’ milestone. Resources are always useful but come on.
Superstars contest - this has improved since you’ve added the 30k per PH win. That is an improvement and gives incentive to add a few PHs to the line up.
Faction contest - once again uninspiring prizes meant that no one was interested in chasing it. Needs better rewards outside of Warscore. There were problems with the points. Not sure how that happens when the event is basically a copy and paste.
Warscore competition - 400,000,000?! What do you think we do with our weekends :) Seriously though the new milestones were good. Only gripe was that the skill plate bag was replaced with some rubbish bag that looked good but gave strap parts.
At 70 mil in a flash feud, come on. Kick in the teeth for players. Also, it would’ve been nice if the tokens weren’t all Ph. Maybe match them to the class of the required character on the top row??
Also, now I’ve played all 4, this compounds the timing issues. Unfair for players asleep during some feuds. Not sure this was a good move. We could strategise before to make sure we hit the goals. Now we can’t.
Perks - once again, absolutely pointless and added nothing to the feud. Please have a rethink about these.
Prizewall - again, AGAIN, we are unable to accrue sufficient coins by playing rather than paying. It’s not a “prizewall” it’s literally a “pay”wall. I suppose this is a problem when you have monetised the game as much as you have. You can’t ‘give’ things to someone who actually plays the game. Sad.
Pretty poor weekend, even if you fix the solo points. 2/10. But you guys don’t listen/care.
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