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This was not that great of an event. I feel that there weren’t enough medallions available to get most of the items on the prize wall. I have no issues with the 24 hour premium showdown event even though most of us can’t play it, but the regular showdown event needed better milestone prizes.
Also, we used to be able to get credit for both characters meeting whatever class requirement there was for the bonus, but now you only get credited once even if both characters were of that class.
Lastly, it was not possible for most of us to come close to maxing the showdown contest because of the energy cap and paid characters we needed to use. The showdown defense requirements pigeonholes certain characters into the 1st slot, so you basically end up going against the same characters in every match. Maybe the requirements need to be loosened a bit more.
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Where oh where to begin. I was so excited to see this version of Dusty in the game and was ready to spend, considerably more than I normally would, to get a character who was one of my favorites growing up. Then after the trial, that solidified wanting to chase.....and then the event started.
The tours in general were fine, they are what they are at this point.
Shardless loots for the chase character are AWFUL and should never happen again...but yet they continue.
The showdown? Well, as we all know it was broken from the start. Scoring for characters not working, or not "properly labeled" so people know when to use them. Red rings costing people energy and notoriety through no fault of their own is extremely frustrating and made moreso by the need for some reason to have energy as a factor. So, it's not enough to have to have ridiculously paywalled characters as css and almost be required in order to hit the final "free" milestone, but you have to deal with this random limitation on when/how you can play the event. It's randomly decided what the refresh rate will be, and what the "limit" is for energy (unless you want to buy energy, which depending on your red ring situation may not actually help anyways). Support/In game messages were non-existent..AGAIN.
Also, why take away the option to acquire energy before the SD is over anyways?
The faction event was a mixed bag. Having a different type of scoring option was welcomed instead of relying solely on talent up, but lowering the points for leveling up characters was a poor decision. Also, the rewards were pretty poor, and the leaderboard is pretty useless overall.
The prizewall at 1st glance looked good, until you realized the medallions were basically non-existent in milestones and insanely expensive in "offers".
SD used to be the weekend where players could grind and make good progress towards recruiting a character, then decide if they wanted to spend (not a ridiculous amount) to recruit the character, or get close enough to recruit them soon. Now, it's just another disappointing event in a long line of them, broken up every now and then by something ok.
My excitement over Dusty was quickly extinguished when there was no realistic path to recruiting him. Therefore outside of the $5 pack my wallet stayed closed. Your loss. Do better.
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Here to say three things:
- The broken points method for Drew was handled unprofessionally. There was no announcement about it (you just had to hope you personally noticed no points were being scored); there was a brief acknowledgement on the Support page as a "known issue" which was then deleted at some point once the problem was fixed...with no announcement to the community that it had been fixed. Why? Because then you would've had to acknowledge it was broken in the first place?
- By my calculations, one of the 24,999 Skill Plates would have cost over $200 USD to acquire, which means 3SS Dusty (38,199) would have cost even more than that. These costs are way of out line with historical prize wall costs. I don't expect anyone at Scopely to admit it either way, but I would love to know if this was just a miscalculation by the team when pricing these things out, or if you were testing the market to double and triple the prices of the Showdown Prize Wall.
- The changes to Showdown have sadly made it an overall negative game mode/experience. Between the restrictions on cards that can be used along with the monetization of energy, and the Drew/CSS/Prize Wall nuances this weekend...it was just not a good event.
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Showdown was once everyone’s favorite thing. It has now become their least favorite. It needs to go back to the way it was. We should be able to use whoever we want on offense and defense. The energy is a joke. Everything in the last year has gone the wrong way with the game. Everything got changed for the worse then got ran into the ground with Repetition. Make the game great again!
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Dead event. Money grab, you have pretty much sucked the fun out of SD, since the introduction of energy showdown has been awful, just another way of making money by having the option to buy energy, remove energy and let us grind again, the constant restrictions of who we can use for showdown is killing the mode ever more. Long time players have built up our rosters and yet we don’t have the option to use who we want in an event that used to be fun! Atleast when we have Showdown scrimmage we could get shards for previous showdown weekend cards. Also the fact you gave away dusty to a lot of players and didn’t compensate the rest of the community just feels like a kick in the nuts tbh. Poor event overall just like every Sd of recent times
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Positives.
I enjoyed the new characters and the business of this event. Lots too do. Could complete most events with characters I had.
Negatives.
- The limits on showdown (requirements) are tiresome. It tales away the fun of this mode too much. Limiting character to striker, ok, but also making it striker+legend era makes it very hard for some players, and very monotonous.
- Also adding damage needed by characters that didnt fit the first stipulatiuon was not cool.
- The so called "free" milestones are too hard to reach, even if you are only missing 1 or 2 of the required bonus characters. Not fair at all.
- The showdown was very unstable. I lost health many times due to freezing and points-stips were not counting correctly. I had 2 techs running and was only getting credit for 1.
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1) People got free Dusty, Scopely was made aware through support and on this portal - nothing has been mentioned or done about this.
2) Redrings and energy lost were the worst it has ever been.
3) Having to tag with Drew was obnoxious.
4) Broken/undefined CSS requirements, quietly fixing Drew and not communicating it.
This was one of the most unenjoyable, glitchy, and tainted events to date and coming off that TP rollback this did a lot of community damage.
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Just very poor with technical issues. I missed out on at least 1 more milestone because of March loading issues and having to restart after almost every match. There was also at least 2 hour time frame where the Showdown was unplayable, meaning the wouldn’t load period.
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they did so
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A few thoughts after the weekend event has ended. Tours were fine. The premium Showdown event is fine, except when you give players the card for free and then not mention anything about it the rest of the weekend. On top of the Early issues with CSS not counting or working correctly. Also, not a fan of the fact that you need all of the CSS to get the final "free" reward in the actual SD event. The Showdown having the red ring issues. These issues all on top of the issues with the wrong tp being given, then you say you considered it and were leaving it, only to come back and say after careful consideration you were taking it back. Then the amounts removed varied by player and more often than not the incorrect amount was taken. Just a bad taste on top of a sour taste. If this happens too often you will lose players. I have already reduced my spending due to all the issues in game revently.
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The addition of the premium sd has been disappointing. It has been much more difficult to max events as the required characters become much more geared to premium content.
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Got screwed by this energy bug. Support barely acknowledged my issue and offered no compensation when I fell short of milestones I would have easily achieved with proper energy regeneration.
I've been part of collective rollbacks before but feel singled out here. Have it your way. Subscriptions canceled, money going to game developers who care about technical issues with their game. Thanks for a lot of wasted years.
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Oh dear..........................
The new Dusty card seemed pretty solid during the Trial event. However, another Legends era Technician? He's not a very enticing card to pull for when Bob Orton was given away for free, he covers Legends Technician pretty well. And of course there's Hart Foundation Bret, who not everyone has but was a CSS for this event. It's a category that seems pretty well covered.
It's nothing new, but requiring Dusty for both the Friday Showdown AND the Sunday challenge tour is making the majority of the playerbase feel left out. I know this is intentional to entice people to pull for the new card, but locking players out of two events is a bit overkill.
Other than that, the tours were mostly fine. Medallion rewards seemed weak for CSS bonuses (we'll come back to that), but good otherwise.
Now let's talk about the actual Showdown event. First off, I will say that I'm glad this Showdown went back to being 16 energy max, 30 minute recharge. The format's been played around with a lot lately, lowering the max to 12, and recharge time an hour. These were bad. 16 energy / 30 minutes is much better! I doubt it's going to get any more generous than that, so please don't change it again.
Now for everything else........ oof. Bad form on not including the conditions on winning a match in World Champion League with Cody Rhodes or Terry Funk. It was fixed eventually but people wasted bouts trying to meet these conditions, and no form of compensation was given. I also got a good laugh out of the one saying to win a match with "Patt Partterson"... sweet double typo. I would've thought y'all would be more stringent at checking to make sure things were fine with everything after the TP Bag incident earlier this week, but I guess not. And then there's the whole thing with doing damage with Drew McIntyre. Why? None of his cards are Legend status, so he has to go in slot 2, meaning you have to waste 3 turns and then tag out. Why require damage out of someone that doesn't go in slot 1? Please don't do this anymore.
As usual, I had no chance of hitting the 1.8 million milestone because I don't have enough CSS's to get there. Very frustrating that a million solo points was locked in that milestone, as after doing all the tours and meeting the CSS requirements there, and spending pretty much all my energy and getting to Elite level, I was still 450k short of making it to the 9.4 million solo milestone that gives the turkey for the collection quest. You can't say this is a "free" milestone if it requires so many premium characters, like the brand new Dusty Rhodes.
The prizewall was a joke. The amount of medallions given out was downright paltry. In the previous event, I was able to buy a couple Ultimate straps that were separated into Modern Era and Attitude Era PLUS the 6 subclasses...... I was hoping this would happen for the Legends era, but there was no class separation. I was barely able to get the 3700 required for ONE strap, and that was thanks to being in a good faction that actually maxed the faction event (which required a ridiculous amount of 6 Star level ups). The amount of medallions is always slanted more towards the bonus milestones, so those playing for free don't get enough, but this time it was even worse than usual. 14899 for a Technician token bundle? Is this a joke? I couldn't even get enough medallions to get the 4699 required for 50 shards of Tech Cody, and this is after a full weekend of using Showdown energy, doing all the tours (minus the Dusty one), etc.
Not entirely related to this horrible weekend event, but it was quite funny to log in today and see a "special" in the store, wanting $99.99 every day for the next 4 days to get a "SPECIAL BONUS" and a prizewall that hasn't even been made public. What makes you think we're so eager to open our wallets after this last disaster of a week?
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This sd had to be 1 of the worst events ever. Several glitches, horrible rewards, no way to max without spending hundreds of dollars, and just overall, bad. The company doesn't care unless they are making lots of money. Even the big spenders are unhappy now. Time to come to a happy medium and make tye game enjoyable again
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I used to love showdown now I hate it
the crazy requirements are ruining this mode you used to be able to use whoever you want now I got to use specific eras or classes not loving that you got use specific defenses or specific offenses stop that if they count as bonus points that’s one thing but to force people to only use that class or era is bogus
The energy system sucks I had a feeling it was going to be a problem when your introduced it and it has for sure become a huge problem I shouldn’t have to spend money to hit milestones I did everything I could task wise I didn’t have Tech Dusty I know huge surprise I also didn’t have Pat Patterson but I had all the other characters and did all the other tasks to come up 50k short of the 1.8 million milestone also the weekend character shouldn’t give you bonus points for showdown bc you are at best getting rid of 90k points for about 80% of your players and that might be being generous
also the medallions were in short supply don’t know where they were but I didn’t have a fat enough wallet to find out so yea that was some more nonsense this mode is just not fun anymore
I was excited when you brought back showdown bc it was my favorite mode but this bastardized version you brought back needs some fixing back to the drawing board
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I should be able to grind out points but your bogus e energy system forces you to the only way to compete is spend and out of all the money schemes you guys come up with I can’t respect a mode that you have made pay to play essentially the energy system needs to go in the trash
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The limited time tours was fair.I like that month long bret bags was being giving out just in time for this bret requirement.
Showdown contest is always challenging,but not having rare characters for showdown makes it hard to get all the free milestones in the showdown competition. Faction competition leveling up 6s takes a lot of coins, maybe consider using tp as well of leveling up 6s.
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Showdown turns into Shitdown with this restrictions from you.
Without spending money you can reach nothing good.
That you should damage with the second superstar is absolut unfair when you dont have a really good first person.
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Get rid of the energy system. It is ruining both the event and career showdowns.
Stop telling us milestones are "free" and then requiring rare, paywalled characters in order to get there.
End this stupid premium showdown nonsense.
Other than those things this was the run of the mill weekend showdown event. Prizewall is and always has been a joke. Glad to see more are starting to see that.
What I really want is some sort of public discussion of the people that were somehow able to get the new dusty card and a slew of resources for free on the portal. What was that? Even if it was a random thing, or a time limited thing, or a quantity limited thing; let's get some information on that. Hell, even if it's someone photoshopping to cause an incident, we need to know.
At any rate, I'd give this event a C to a D. It needs to be more grindable and at a minimum the energy system needs to go before showdown can even dream of getting back to what it should be.
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Scopely doesnt care about what the community has to say
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Overall another solid weekend contest and promotion starting with the mid week opportunity to use Dusty Rhodes as a trail character. This contest had some value and opportunities for everyone including both paid players as well as Free 2 Play (F2P) players.
Hard Times Showdown Showcase
Dusty Rhodes Trail Opportunity
Starting with the Dusty Rhodes trail opportunity, this is great for any WWEChampions player while giving you the opportunity to experience/play with a strong character. However, I felt like the trail rewards were less than thrilling on each level (Normal/Hard/Hell). Feel like normal should be geared towards 4SB/5SB, Hard towards 5SS/5SG/6SB and Hell for 6SB/6SS. Outside of the quality of rewards the trail is always a mode I like when it comes about.
Hard Times Limited Time Tours
One of the better contests with opportunities for all players to be able to get both the reward and bonus rewards. Only suggestion is I feel like since have sometimes slow starts to week with fewer contests/tours, the weekend tours should consist of two per day similar to Sunday.
Premium Showdown Showcase
From one side I love the idea especially if you are spending like you have to land the premium character. However, I feel like only a small portion of players have this opportunity and understand this is a way to get people to chase the character. A suggestion would be to extend the trail character and allow it to extend over premium event for maybe 4 hours or something to give an opportunity for everyone. A second suggestion could be to allow the premium character to be rented through the use of the green “In game cash”. In return this would allow players to watch ads/complete offers to get it or even purchase that from you. After the character is returned from the user.
Regular Showdown Showcase
Showdown lived up to the rest of the showdown showcases and allowed a ton of opportunities to earn rewards including through the use of bonus characters. The length of it was not bad at all, still feel like you could start at all weekend to allow individuals in different time zones to get more game play but overall not bad. Also feel like showdowns should be unlimited to allow for grinding while also making it possible for players to get a good reward for grinding.
Hard Times Contest Rewards & Prize Wall Rewards
Always love seeing the prize walls and rewards from the contests however, these showdown contests are difficult to rack up to land any rewards of any value outside of token bundles unless you have all the bonus characters and spend. From someone who doesn’t have any good plates, feel like they are always great prizes but every once and awhile should be easier to get. Feel like each showdown contest I play a ton but just get to the bonus area but not much farther.
Faction Event
Loce the concept of faction events to work together and earn rewards. However like other areas the rewards need to be increased to focus on strength of characters now such as 5SG - 6SS. Also need to tier off rewards for levels of faction as lower tier factions have no opportunity against power house factions with top players.
Additional Feedback:
From the portal perspective, feel like additional opportunities to land rewards for both he portal as well as in game could be made available to join the current trivia. This could include hitting milestones for logging in each day and claiming rewards.
All and all another solid weekend of wrestling with WWEChampions over the weekend. There are possible changes that could be made and things that are good. As long as focus continues to be about making it better for us the players it’s always great to see.
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A new event for wrestling legend Dusty Rhoads. Let's divide its event into bad and good:
Good:
- Strong new character.
- Not bad bonuses from the trial (Although they were still taken away, even though it was a mistake by the developers).
- Relatively simple event roads.
- Loots with event shards (the idea is good, but I don’t think many people got something good).
- Relatively easy conditions for showdown (there are many relatively free and even free characters of the required era, and this is a very positive phenomenon)
Bad:
- A useless wall of prizes. (Unless you receive a “golden chest,” there is no way to get anything worthwhile without an additional “pay”).
- Useless showdown for donors with a new character.
- Another road for a donated character (it’s unclear why it’s needed, considering that he already had a SD).
- A terrible reaction event (it seems that they tried to suck as many coins out of the players as possible and thus create an artificial shortage of resources before the Talent Up, it seems like a painful injury for the developers after their mistake with TP bags).
Let's summarize: although it seems that there are few disadvantages, they are significant. Looks like an attempt to take as much money as possible from the status of a legendary wrestler. The factional event is also made practically impossible for most factions, as it requires huge investments from each member of the faction. Therefore, I give this event 3/10.
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Pretty standard contest kind of boring , sd coin should be worth more for ppl with out promoters , pw coin given out, prizes and cost on pw lackluster. I would like to see more options in future for prize wall like more coin options, token options and maybe some plate picker s (more available then just talent ups )
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The last few showdown weekend events have really missed the mark in my eyes. For a "A" tier superstar shards are very hard to come by. I usually am around 1k+ and the last 2 have been around 650-750.
In talks of fairness you gave out 2k shards of this new dusty as a mistake but from what I have heard those people lucky enough to get that were able to keep him. What's up with that?
Maxing the showdown is now near impossible. I usually get the last "free" or gold trunk milestone but with the premium pay wall superstars and the weekend CSS you cannot get close. It's no fun knowing you can't possibly max the milestones even if you grind, just because you don't spend. Do better!!
Showdown took some getting use to with the new update and for a few months things looked better. I would revert back to a few months ago (Farooq, Cora jade) showdown events - those were manageable and fun.
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Again to be upfront I didn't have a huge problem with this event but that's because I had not hoped for much going into it.
That said, There's been Not one response from a moderator nor from any Scopely representative. I'll go ahead and guess the company has chosen to run out the clock on this event hoping it's forgotten.
The silence is not only deafening but extremely telling.
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Feedback for Hard Times Dusty SD
- Dusty trial was fun. Always love those characters that are left on auto-play and he managed to finish the entire Trial tour without me even needing to look at the screen. Considering he's SD I'm hoping I can eventually shard recruit him. Although I am not hopeful as the amount of shards to recruit in every SD has become so stingy and needs you to heavy spend.
- SD used to be fun when it was called Scrimmage now it's just another SD where it's such a bore. Even though I want to say the restricting to use one Era or Class should allow for users to be more diverse but then again I spent all my resources building certain characters from certain meta but yet I can't use them for SD just feels like such a bore and almost a chore to play.
- What with the SD event where we can't get to the last Gold chest milestone and then you add more bonuses where there's no way to reach other than spending on energy resources to get there? Wow... Ok.
- Again the prizewall is so appalling to the point where during Scrimmage I could feel like I can pick as many as I want without heavy spending and now it feels like even after reaching Solo milestone 20 of 25, I still only have enough to pick one of the shards.
- Issues also with the SD, I mean you would think by now with this being the oldest type of event we would expect minimal issues with SD.
- Also, this whole Drew fiasco could have been avoided by just not putting a Drew requirement. I get you want us to strategise to tag Drew in and do damage but this is something not many are used to doing so surely you will hear from people saying they're not getting the points when they're just assuming Drew just needs to be a tag partner and not do any actual damage. Either change your wording to be clear or make it easier by introducing Class or Era requirement instead.
- Solo tours CSS requirements were fine and no complaints there.
- Faction event is definitely an attack on our resources considering there's no coin or TP event to double dip so just leveling 6star superstar just feels like a waste and only doing it to ensure I do my 1% for my faction.
Overall, the joy of playing weekend SD seems to be diminishing and not as fun as it was once upon a time especially with the fact that we need to get used to the energy refresh timer and ensure we're getting the most out of it without going over the limit, otherwise that stops your refresh timer.
I don't know what to suggest to fix this other than saying SD weekend events are going backwards.
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The feud was very buggy. I had red rings every second or third match, losing streak bonuses in the process. On the tours, I had the same issue with the Rock node on all 3 difficulties. I had to hard reset the game to continue. I was only missing 2 css and still couldn’t hit the last free milestone.
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Congratulations on winning the giveaway!!
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Poor Way.....
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