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STRUTTIN’ & CUTTIN’ – MIDWEEK FACTION BOSS

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  • Atinman
    Atinman Member ✭✭✭

    i will start off with this: BOSS BATTLES ARE THE MOST BORING AND UNCREATIVE MODE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN THIS GAME!

    Im sorry but the developer or developers who created this should be shot out of a cannon into the Mariana Trench with concrete shoes on

    The mode is so annoying: Bosses with way too much HP, you need to swipe to break gems and gems created and broken by moves don’t count, heals are insanely overpowered, and you don’t get anything for trying and failing

    And to those who want to reply and say “Just get good”, I say take a long walk off a short cliff. The game shouldn’t feel like a second or third job

  • RaZor Ramon
    RaZor Ramon Member ✭✭✭

    Typically, the mid week boss battles has been straightforward and easy to complete for the faction in a short time.

    This one with Brutus though felt like a faction boss weekend with the difficulty it was. I do not know if this was intentional to make it hard to get the 3rd Nash coin “free” or not. This boss battle was a big debacle. The only thing that was good was a break from seeing Woken winning first. I know they’ll probably get it 9 times out of 10, but it was refreshing to see another faction 1st this time.

    I also did not enjoy the lag and glitches that happened with this faction boss battle. This seriously needs to be looked at and corrected or the game mode might become unplayable sooner than later and go the way of Invasion, disappearing forever.

  • Reiver8675309
    Reiver8675309 Member ✭✭✭

    There's been much discussion in recent weeks about faction boss from a balance and logistical perspective.

    The honest truth is that if the mode continues to have frequent connection errors/lag spikes, few changes can make a real difference.

    But game development, and building a framework to provide live co-op multiplayer, is no easy feat. So I'm presenting suggestions that can lessen the pain for players if the game mode is going to continue to be a buggy mess:

    • Vote To Forfeit: A system where players in a lobby can vote to surrender the match without the team members incurring a five-minute deserter penalty. To avoid global lobby trolling, the forfeit votes need to be unanimous. Ultimately, most bosses lately have either been turn 1 or done, or at the very least become much more annoying after they get a chance to take a move. Sometimes we want to wave the white flag but have to sit through a whole round before the boss can land the killing blow because we don't want to get hit with a five-minute penalty. I can't express how annoying that is for good-faith players that are just trying to beat the boss.
    • "Win a boss battle on AT LEAST Level XX": This week's system requiring level 17 grinds to earn unlimited points was smart in the sense that many contest superstars required level 17 clears - this created a system where players grinding level 17 clears were also able to help non-grinders get their CSS points for their individual contests. Great! But why make the level 20 clears that players completed worthless as a result? If you make the CSS condition to be a match won at "at least" a certain level, while moving the "grind task" back to level 20, players can complete their solo objectives while still being rewarded for contributing to the ultimate faction goal of 100 players earning 400 "skulls" - why should it matter if three teammates carried my 4SG HOF Rude through a level 20 instead of a level 12?


  • Wildcoyote
    Wildcoyote Member ✭✭

    I get making boss battles more challenging but the restrictions are crazy. 10 players having to carry the whole faction is crazy.

    considering how tough it was just to beat lvl 17, barely anyone was able to get their bonuses in. So how are we suppose to max event with such limitations?

    i am very curious to know how many actually maxed. I figure 95% did not max and there went our chance to get hof Nash. With how much we grinded to get the first 2 medallions, it really sucks to lose it this way. I doubt every one wants to drop hundreds of dollars on pulls which is now the only option for most.

    i love boss battles but this one was unfair. On top of the black gem breaks not working and Scopely even said it was an issue and we’re working on it…

  • dimosfen
    dimosfen Member ✭✭

    I will list my impressions about these events:

    1) The boss is overly specific. Although it has a lot of new features. To defeat him to a decent level of the event. (And I mean the level that is considered "free"). You need to have at least 6 stars of donation characters with donation plates.

    2)loot boxes give very bad rewards. They can even be compared to free MLC rewards.(It was a bad idea to donate to this)

    3)A huge number of bugs associated with both the boss itself and the connection of players. A little less than before, but still a lot.

    I can sum up. Very slow technical progress, weak rewards until penultimate and last "free" branch. Bad lootpacks. An overly strong boss requiring serious pumping of each team member. And as a result, a very weak event for free players and for paid ones, too, both from the technical side and from the side of its basic idea.I still hope that there will be more adequate offers and adequate loot packs for paid players, as well as normal and balanced rewards for free players. Since with each such event, the desire to play the game becomes less and less.

  • Rastegari
    Rastegari Member ✭✭

    There was a time where I’d write a long message about why this event only serves to frustrate and cause resentment within factions, but my spending is down about 80% over the past year so part of me is a little relieved that y’all are doing such a terrible job.

    Thoughts and prayers go out to players who thought they’d actually be getting HOF Nash by maintaining a reasonable level of consistent play.

  • Was terrible way to hard there guy in my faction spent 24 hour just carry other faction mates like they have a life and all the css level 17 was need to have 3 rockers if you do css list make sure you can do the boss with it because a level 17 with hof hogan 6 stars was undoable with 3 rockers

  • TTB1982
    TTB1982 Member

    As this is a discussion board i'd like to have a discussion with a game mod about how bad this boss battle was. As stated many times on here and all other forums it seems this was your way of making sure HoF Nash was NOT "free" as there was no way any free player got that coin for week 3. My faction came 12th (i belive) and no one in there got it, infact only 5 or 6 factions managed to finish it so job done i guess....

    As i said at the start, i'd like to have a discussion about this so if anyone wants to answer how requiring 3 rocker shawn with tiara/drip plates to carry people to a milestone in order to get a coin for "free" can be deemed as "free" i'm all ears.

    Even your contest superstars were set up to fail, requiring HoF Snoop for a level 17 for example.. Mine is maxed 5sg and he was unable to finish a 17, why? oh yeah because he doesn't generate any cross break gems and the only move he has that generates blacks makes a block of 6.

  • BugHomie
    BugHomie Member ✭✭✭

    This event was horrible. 1. This mode loses connection alot, the moves freeze a lot. This is 100% scopley fault and we the players have to pay the price with a 5 minute timeout , for whatever the reason the failure is on your side. Me and several others had to play this game for 20-22 hours or more carrying people in the faction to get people 4 20’s. This is way too much too ask of your playerbase to do this. You could at least make all css be able to he done at level 20. That way when someone is ran through they are done. You really need to only pick bb weaknesses that a lot more superstars are effective against the boss. This was unacceptable. Do better

  • 1 Every aspect of the game is laggy when boss battle event is running.

    2 Disconnections during the match are terrible especially on Europe servers.

    3 Game freezing and unable to use moves is just frustrating.

    4 The restrictions and reliance on small numbers of faction members is a joke.

    5 Black gems not counting towards breaking the shield if they had been converted to heal gems made it difficult to break.

    6 making it that complicated on a weekday was just stupidity

  • Carlos456907
    Carlos456907 Member
    edited January 2023

    It was too difficult, required 2% of the faction working their tails off to carry everyone. There needs to be a rework of the concept where more people are involved. Nobody minds grinding but let's not restrict it to 6 people in each faction. We all want to play too.

    Reduce the difficulty, make the grind for everyone. Would be a much better concept. Boss battle was cool until you started nerfing Owens and Meth.

  • Animal23
    Animal23 Member

    I don’t even know where to begin. All I want to do is flip the F out and not be constructive at all but we all know that gets us nowhere. So first off this was absolutely the worst Boss event to date with all the game freezes/connection errors. I’d say every other match half my faction was in timeout for 5 minutes due to loss of connection. We should not be penalized for this so that needs to go until you guys figure shit out.


    Now on to the Boss himself. Absolutely ridiculous for a midweek event. If you didn’t have 2-3 rockers with drip plates or tiara plates carrying you just weren’t going to win. Yes I’ve seen people do it with a few others but took 13 rounds…,.. yea that’s feasible during the week. Only 5 factions were able to even get to 40k so obviously something wasn’t right. There’s nothing wrong with a challenge or relying on strategy but this was extreme. We need to find a happy medium for everyone not just the top 3 factions.

  • Vic_Torious
    Vic_Torious Member ✭✭
    edited January 2023

    Lagging and connection issues were ridiculous once again. Also glitches with charging moves didn’t help. The health gained each turn was supposed to be in a certain range, but was at the maximum range each time. Also when a move is used and the animation takes up the time left, it’s frustrating to not be able to finish the move completely, and mp is taken away. I feel like it could be done like it is when a move is dodged.

  • Κλαπαναρας
    edited January 2023

    Where can I start, really…

    1/ you absolutely destroyed f2p players, since no one was able to participate, in a decent level.

    Most could do around 8-10 lvl matches, with their best 6s posters, and that’s it…No bonus character could make a dent to the BB, even as 6star, in the levels you requested

    Bonus matches, already request specific cards, MAKE THEM AT LEAST IN PLAYABLE LEVELS, for these cards, that won’t require carriers…


    2/ you absolutely frustrated a big chunk of the “big wallet” players, since, onlya few had Rocker Shawn with a paywalled drip plate….Except the top 2-3 teams, that had 20-30 of them, and could make some recycling, in every other team, even ranked 5th-6th or 7th, and below, there were only 5-6 or 10 ppl, in different time zones, doing a 2 day- 12 hour daily labor, to carry their teammates, to fulfill their 20 lvl matches, and their 18-20 side matches because every 20 lvl match, required 3 rockers with drip plates…

    Of course, the result was the vast majority of the side matches, not to be done…

    This structure is not a team challenge, this is a pure punishment for your best buying customers.


    3/ Huge connection issues….We had from one hand the awful structure of the event, and on the other hand, matches that even if 1 Rocker was disconnected, the match was end for all…and it happened pretty often…


    4/ You picked, to do, the most difficult, demanding, frustrating event, since now, in the middle of the week, where everyone works…


    I really wonder… Don’t you test your game??? Isn’t anybody there, who considers player needs, (both f2p and paying customers) their reality and their need to have fun, with the game?

    Please listen to the players…. ppl play this game, and spend their money on it, in order to have fun… don’t punish them with such events…

  • Novachi
    Novachi Member ✭✭

    I understand some complaints here, but to say that Boss Battle destroys f2p is total bullshit. I agree this boss was not the easiest but it was totally doable up to lvl 14/15 even without ko and / or rocker. Boss Battles are all about bossbreakers and the currency for those are free to get every single day if your faction is half good at team quests the faction coins should be enough to buy the bossbreaker tokens. It takes communication and sometimes different playstyles on Champions than in Tours for example. For example anyone creating yellow gems or destroying them rather was useful in this Boss with the boss plate. I see that the plate is not totally common either but definitely easier to come by than drip plate which was mentioned quite a few times in this thread.

    So yes , some points are legit , like the connection issues. But it was definitely not as paywalled as some ppl try to make it here .

  • TTB1982
    TTB1982 Member

    Level 14/15 4 times wont get you anywhere near finishing the event. Don't try to justify what scopely put out by saying you could finish low levels, we could all have done those levels but had to try to do level 20's and get contest bonuses at level 17 just to get the coin for HoF Nash

  • Novachi
    Novachi Member ✭✭

    So the game is broken cause you can’t max all events? Wrong way to play these games . Don’t think any mobile game of this type is like that, scopely or not

  • BugHomie
    BugHomie Member ✭✭✭

    If youre doing level 14/15 you dont really

    get an opinion. This is about level 20.

  • Novachi
    Novachi Member ✭✭

    I finished the boss on level 20 so I think I have all rights to post my opinion, even if I didn’t finish the boss I would have. Point still stands u don’t need the drip plate like some ppl said to beat the boss and you don’t need rocker either , all you need is teamplay and bossbreakers. But whatever I say here some ppl will keep crying that the game is too tough because they don’t get donated everything. So keep crying about how sucky the game is if u want, apparently it’s not sucky enough for you to stop playing. Either way Boss is over , time to move on. Have a nice weekend.

    Oh just one more thing , after all the bosses lately that had abilities which made ko unplayable it is just fair to have one now where ko can shine if u ask me. Next boss will have different champs as mvp again mostlikely

  • BugHomie
    BugHomie Member ✭✭✭

    And i finished over 100 level 20 battles so whats your point, that you likely got carried through 4. Also your name doesnt even exist in the database, so youre obviously hiding who you are just to troll.

  • Novachi
    Novachi Member ✭✭

    Doubtful that I need to be carried. But think whatever you want I couldn’t care less what you think about me. Obviously you can’t discuss on a friendly basis so keep being offensive. My IGN is Nova Chi , I have no reason to hide who I am, don’t see why you complain about the boss tho if u won so many 20s , so only one trolling is you.

  • I just started playing the feud today as had a lot on yday but its a really good feud and I have the wrestlers to win haha

  • Shanes
    Shanes Member ✭✭

    Easy solution for boss breaker... 2x animation speed. this would balance out with the connection errors and tech glitches.

    The most progress was made at 2am when the servers weren't overloaded. Maybe get more servers to handle the load.

  • BugHomie
    BugHomie Member ✭✭✭

    I shouldn’t have to do that many. More players should be able to play it, instead of waiting too be carried.

  • KR4Y2EE
    KR4Y2EE Member ✭✭

    In the in game store, it says complete all FREE milestones of midweek contests to earn Nash HOF. BUT, the wrestlers and plates required to beat this boss at the high levels to get the Nash medallion have NEVER been available for free for everybody.

    We WANT to complete all FREE milestones of January Midweek Contest to earn brand new Kevin Nash HOF, but you, Scopely, are preventing us from doing that, making this screenshot and its text, false.

    THREE medallions have been made available, actually for FREE for everybody who wanted to earn them.

    TWO have been behind paywalls, preventing everybody from being able to recruit Nash HOF.

    To resolve this, a 5th medallion needs to be made available, and be ACHIEVABLE BY EVERYBODY, without them having to spend, and without them having to have spent previously.


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