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We need a shard grind with 6* needing a crapton of shards

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ShadyDaze
ShadyDaze Member ✭✭
edited March 2023 in SUGGESTIONS

And I have a few ideas on this:

Shard Loot Box (taken from my suggestion in the forum from before, but a little vulgar birdie told me it would be better to make it a post here)

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I heard this was being worked on, but I have an idea of where I want this to go so I'm putting it here anyway.


4th Loot Box


Contains shards of any Superstar in the game excluding:

IOW Superstars (they have dedicated sources)

Characters released in the past 2 MLC windows (so that Scopely is still incentivized to market these people and cash in on the FOMO, and that way we can still have our suplexing simulator we love so much

Superstars you need to subscribe to plans to use (Having a 6*b King of Kings HHH doesn't mean anything if you can't use him)

Superstars that no longer exist in the game (because they can't be pulled for, their shards don't exist)

Anyone in the shard chests we get for dailies (that is a dedicated source of these shards and multiple staples we use today have come from them)


Would require 20-25 loot boxes to open


Contains 1-5 shards of any eligible Superstar in the game (you would be meant to grind this out for the people you want; ineligibilities are listed above)


A bit of a stretch would be having a tour to specifically use characters that generate Loot Boxes, but then again, that would incentivize the use of characters like Showboat Godfather


Yes, I know 1-5 shards "ain't shit" but there are people that have played this game since Day 1 and still don't have characters that were released in 2016-2017. This is a marathon, not a sprint, and seeing that chest open to find 5 shards of somebody that they want? That's going to give them at least the illusion of progress. You can hook people in with this, and once you've got them hooked, they're more likely to spend money for the things that release in the future.


I'm reminded of the title of a song by Motorhead, "The Chase is Better Than the Catch". It's always more about the journey of getting the Superstar you've been lusting after for all these years than it is the acquisition of the Superstar itself. This one addition to the game would make it immensely more free-to-play compatible as well as serve as a free way to obtain shards you can later use to turn your favorites (or more likely, meta staples) into 6* behemoths. I, for one, would gladly play this game all day every day if this feature was included, if only because I've been addicted to the RPG grind loop for over 20 years.


I was told that this idea cannot happen due to the coe for the loot boxes being from another company that has since separated from Scopely. Sad, my Godfather was getting a little chubby and needed the exercise.

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Idea 2: Daily shard tour

Make a new daily tour that would let us grind out shards for people. Normal mode, put in C and B tier guys we already have, 100-500 shards of people everybody under the yellow sun would already have on their roster after a week of playing. Hard mode, 500-1000 B tier for the first two nodes and some A-tier shards for the last node. Hell mode, A and S tiers all the way, 30-50. If only because the conversion rates on A and S tier shards are actually halfway decent.

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Idea 3: Shard conversion

Simple: there are some people with HUNDREDS of thousands of shards of people they'll never use and it'll possibly take several months to get the guy/girl they want to 5sg (if he/she isn't already there) on TOP of the requirements needing 10 6-star tokens. There are some people that just want to get people in the game that they've been trying to get for years. This would fix that. Now I know the conversion rates for this would likely be ass to compensate for potentially getting people that are actually legitimately powerful, but this would actually go a long way towards people filling out missing spots on their rosters.

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Idea 4: Make the shard loot coins grindable

The fact that they're exclusively paid and ONLY give out shards is apocryphal to me. We should at least be able to get a couple of these every so often so we can pull for shards and help get our guys to 6-star.

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Idea 5: Expand the possible shard rewards in the keys and make the 3rd loot box in MLC-related tours give keys instead of shards to encourage grinding for shards in a roundabout way

This probably won't happen, but they always do this for kickoff tours where the 3rd loot box only gives keys, so the possibility exists.

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Idea 6: Put shards of Superstars(besides IoW) in the showdown, stipulation and faction boss shops

Showdown already has shards and posters, but they're for old people that have been in the game for years. I wouldn't have Hacksaw Jim Duggan without it but the showdown shop needs a reward overhaul to make it worth it to use our showdown coins. And the stip/faction boss shops could use the extra resource drain, it's not like we have enough stuff in there anyway.


This idea has already been partially acted on in a sense with the new showdown update.

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Idea 7: Do nothing

Be honest, this is the idea you're going to go with until enough people complain. Cowards.

Comments

  • Biglove198138
    Biglove198138 Member ✭✭✭

    true we need a shard grind or add shards to loot boxes or as a part of our daily claims

  • AOKay
    AOKay Member

    As someone who just started grinding for TP/Medals/XP for cash

    I think this idea is great.

    Even if they did coins in a loot that you can collect for buying shards. Could vary on the cost of the shards, would be random each weekend or whenever it hit the store. People would grind for the shards or coins for shards or other prizes.

    Love the idea of trading shards for other cards if needed.

    Then in thinking how this could be monitized, they could if they wanted sell sponsors for the ring, as more eyes, more time, more use, more matches, those would be high priced sponsorships scopley could sell to make up for the loss on the shard give away.

    The time of in game play and matches would go up with people grinding for shards of the harder to get cards.

    I love your ideas, I hope eventually we get a way to grind for shards of the A/S Cards so more chance to get them, even if takes a while.

    Heck to your grind comment, been over a year I think I wanted Bianca EST and finally got her this event. But yes, this is a grind and long play game, so grinding for shards in some fashion would be an awesome addition.

  • Mex1823
    Mex1823 Member ✭✭

    This right here is a phenomenal Idea. A shard grind of any sort would be great. We need this to happen!!

  • Robison
    Robison Member ✭✭✭

    Sounds like it could be a good addition

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    This is something that was going to be added well before 6 star but after announcing it they found it wasn't possible for technical reasons. It would take some massive changes for it to happen and so it's unlikely we'll see this.

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭
    edited December 2022

    I gave multiple good ideas, are you saying none of them(aside from the 'do nothing' one) can be implemented?


    Edit: forgot to ask this at first, but what are the technical limitations that prevent us from having the shard grind that would infinitely improve the economy of the game just because you'd have more people hooked by way of at least making them think they're making progress(which would incentivize them to speed up said progress with other pulls later on that do cost money)?

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭
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    Good thing I saved this, I somehow deleted it!

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    Don't know specifics on the limitations but the loot boxes are going to be pretty base level code that is done by a company that is no longer associated with scopely. It would require a massive change to a base level of code to get it to work and not likely to be done.

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭

    Why not just make a tour that rewards shard bags using a similar methodology to what I was going with before? That doesn't seem too farfetched.

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭

    Oh, I have one more idea, and it's already in use!


    Set Superstars as 'favorites' and get shards for each pull you do


    Marvel Puzzle Quest is a game that already does this and I'm surprised they were the first ones to do it that I've seen. If you set a character as a favorite there, every pull you do, even the free ones, give you a chance to get their shards(but obviously getting shards of the better 5* people needed you to do higher-tier pulls) and possibly unlock them outright once you increased your roster space(which is one mechanic I'm glad this game doesn't have. That would be hell.) and had the room to put them in.


    I feel like if we had a system like this, we could even reward the people that are exclusively F2P and are doing their key and league pulls. Of course the higher-tier shards would be rarer, but that would just be the nature of the beast.

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭

    So just to clarify, you can't do any of my ideas at all?

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭

    Keep me in the loop in that case, I gave quite a lot. One of these has to be doable.


    We were promised a way to grind shards. I'm hellbent on keeping you guys honest.

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭

    It's been about a month, figured I'd check in.

  • ShadyDaze
    ShadyDaze Member ✭✭

    It is now 2024, and we're going to be all the way up to 6 Star Gold. Shards are going to be more of an important resource than ever, and now a way to grind out shards isn't just for the ecosystem of the players of the game, but an outright necessity in the meta we're about to inhabit. This has become a feature that the game has not only been in some way originally balanced around, but an outright requirement. WWE Champions needs a way to acquire everybody in the game that isn't entirely dependent on your credit card or winning the Powerball jackpot. People are leaving the game more than they're coming in. The ability to farm shards, even in amounts that equate to Chinese water torture, would bring people back, and new ones in.

    Please give us the thing this game needs to be able to become viable again.

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    this already exists in the form of shards within milestones and prizewalls of subsequent contests. The intent is for the easiest/best source to be in the release contest and lower numbers after that but still obtainable for many on the free/low spenders months later.