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Road to Fame January MLC feedback thread

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  • Jeffrey82
    Jeffrey82 Member

    This game is completely unbalanced. Blitz tickets, coins, tp, and hp are all low. Actually needed tokens have been low for a while as well... I'm not sure what Scopely is expecting from high weekly milestone requirements when the rewards from ALL events are miniscule in comparison. When was the last time the Sunday tour was updated? Why is the KOK vip weekly tour still only paying out enough for 1 5sb level? Vip blitz is an after thought as well. I used to not mind grinding/farming to get the required resources to work my roster up. At this rate I'll be drained in a few weeks and then spending my money elsewhere.

  • So far, the event is abysmal, and somehow, the rewards are worse. It appears that the game is going from pay-to-win to pay-to-complete.

    • Requiring more blitz tickets than are available combined between the wall and the Piper Blitz to be able to max the event turns the blitz into a pay-to-complete.
    • Requiring more coins and TP than are available are turning those events into pay-to-complete. And don't get me started on what dropping what a single TP is worth in the contests. Absolutely ridiculous.
    • The broken showdown system requiring the spending of tens of thousands of coins to even get into a match is ridiculous and further exacerbates the aforementioned lack of coins issue. Cut the refresh costs by a factor of 10, and then maybe you fix that problem.
    • The coin spend requirements on perks are also exacerbating the lack of resources problem.
    • The stinginess with reward coins that might help alleviate SOME of the massive resource scarcity for f2p and non-whales alike is just furthering the divide between whales and the rest of us.
    • The KoK your is still a farce. Revamping that to actually provide meaningful rewards in hell mode is one easy avenue to help with the extreme resource scarcity.
    • The key pulls are an absolute joke. The fact that it's largely populated by uncompetitive characters is a joke of the highest order. Having 3ss versions of tricker big show in featured is just spitting in the community's face.
    • The lack of available strap parts is another big concern. To just unlock the final slot on a legendary strap, you're talking 480 strap parts bags from the expeditions, costing a whopping 120K in faction coins. And that's not including the other levels of the strap, just the final one.
    • The release of 5ss so soon after 5sb, with the huge resource spike between the two is another example of further destroying any semblance of competitiveness between the whales and the rest of us. I'm just waiting on the release of the $2000 pin-proof strap that ensures that even when in danger, your champ can never be pinned. Of course you'll give it out as a reward to the top faction in feud too, no doubt.


    I understand you guys are a business that is pay-to-win, but trying to extract cash at every possible turn is quickly turning this game from pay-to-win to pay-to-complete, which will reduce retention and engagement. The resources available via the expeditions and the weekly tours should be all that is required to complete those monthly event competitions, especially when the rewards are nearly useless 1 and 2 star tokens.

  • The rewards(coins specifically) for the MLC are laughable. I’m about to hit the 26th milestone and the coin payout is 86000. Are u kidding?!? With multiple coin events each week with millions of coin required, its seriously disrespectful to the community of players when you’ve been grinding for half the month and you can get more in the daily tours each day. This needs to be addressed.

  • To continue on my thoughts. Why are the perk prices bumped up over 200%?? That is juat insane. Lots of people cant build up their roster let alone afford a 2 million starting per proce point for feud perks

  • So far, the event is abysmal, and somehow, the rewards are worse. It appears that the game is going from pay-to-win to pay-to-complete.


    * Requiring more blitz tickets than are available combined between the wall and the Piper Blitz to be able to max the event turns the blitz into a pay-to-complete.


    * Requiring more coins and TP than are available are turning those events into pay-to-complete. And don't get me started on what dropping what a single TP is worth in the contests. Absolutely ridiculous.


    * The broken showdown system requiring the spending of tens of thousands of coins to even get into a match is ridiculous and further exacerbates the aforementioned lack of coins issue. Cut the refresh costs by a factor of 10, and then maybe you fix that problem.


    * The coin spend requirements on perks are also exacerbating the lack of resources problem.


    * The stinginess with reward coins that might help alleviate SOME of the massive resource scarcity for f2p and non-whales alike is just furthering the divide between whales and the rest of us.


    *The KoK your is still a farce. Revamping that to actually provide meaningful rewards in hell mode is one easy avenue to help with the extreme resource scarcity.


    * The key pulls are an absolute joke. The fact that it's largely populated by uncompetitive characters is a joke of the highest order. Having 3ss versions of tricker big show in featured is just spitting in the community's face.


    * The lack of available strap parts is another big concern. To just unlock the final slot on a legendary strap, you're talking 480 strap parts bags from the expeditions, costing a whopping 120K in faction coins. And that's not including the other levels of the strap, just the final one.


    * The release of 5ss so soon after 5sb, with the huge resource spike between the two is another example of further destroying any semblance of competitiveness between the whales and the rest of us. I'm just waiting on the release of the $2000 pin-proof strap that ensures that even when in danger, your champ can never be pinned. Of course you'll give it out as a reward to the top faction in feud too, no doubt.


    I understand you guys are a business that is pay-to-win, but trying to extract cash at every possible turn is quickly turning this game from pay-to-win to pay-to-complete, which will reduce retention and engagement. The resources available via the expeditions and the weekly tours should be all that is required to complete those monthly event competitions, especially when the rewards are nearly useless 1 and 2 star tokens.

  • Maschino
    Maschino Member

    Blitz tickets are need and they need too much to finish the milestones

  • Whglas02
    Whglas02 Member

    When can we have an AMA with some devs to get some answers on why the absurd increase in costs/milestones/etc this month?

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    We've been talking about/trying to set one up one for awhile but the guys who would do it aren't the ones who work with the game economy like that.

  • ThePacMan
    ThePacMan Member ✭✭✭✭

    Hi Wwebeta7, so I understand your frustration, majority of the tours that are up, you should able to get points as you can use free characters that have been given out or pulled for keys or loot pulls that would be considered common Thur out certain MLE, and that also would include blitz. But the month is not over, so there are still more chances and more opportunities, don’t give up yet.

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  • DrWhargoul
    DrWhargoul Member ✭✭✭✭

    When it rolled out, I thought the HOF era was supposed to be this sort of super elite group that would be limited and probably not easy to get. Now its looking more and more like every character in the game who is also in the Hall will get a HOF treatment and that just seems like incredibly lazy programming. The renderings don't even look good (except Sting). It's like they ran out of ideas or couldn't get enough new people to add so they tried this. I'm sure negotiating rights sucks.

    This whole month just comes across like a lack of ideas combined with a way to try to increase the "spend velocity" on those HOF tokens.

  • Whglas02
    Whglas02 Member

    Yeah, I understand that. If I were in their shoes causing the negative impact to the game/player base that they were causing, I wouldn't want to answer any questions either.

    Unfortunate where all of this is going. Costs in the game economy are growing and ability to obtain resources is staying the same, at best.

  • NateDogg833
    NateDogg833 Member ✭✭

    Scopely Dev Team,

    This is MLC has been enjoyable, but still disappointing. My main focus is to build HoF Piper to 4sg. This shouldn't be too much of a problem with good amount of coins stashed and enough training points to hit all but the last milestone in the 3 tp contests. Essentially, maxing the tp contest since there isn't any evo tokens in the last milestone. I hit the second to last milestone in talent up, been putting in coin for 3 days of the 5 contests per week and hitting usually 7 or 8 milestones. Hitting all milestones each day would be crazy and I would need over 100 million coin stashed away to even come close to trying to max each one. Needless to say, as we are concluding week 3, I'm not even close to getting HoF Piper to 4sg. I will probably only reach 3sg or 4sb, at most. I even bought a starter pack to get ahead. There is no way a F2P play could come close to maxing Piper at 4sg unless they have 150 million coin stashed and around 20k training points. Then, on top of that, need their faction to be active in the blitzes. There is a big chunk of evo tokens in the faction blitz event. So, if your faction isn't great, you're out of luck of building the MLC character. What is the point of buying the $20 starter pack if there slim to no chance of the MLC character to 4sg? I'm going to be hard pressed to buy that again, but I have to wait another 2 or 3 months to build enough resources to think about making another go at it.

    • The key pulls are nice to have back. Not much for superstars and actually pulling anything good, but free is free and there's the smallest of chance at getting a good card for free.
    • Keys should be in LT tours mostly.
    • Only a little or 0 keys in blitz.
    • I like the LT tours setup for the most part. Having most of the tours open or an era or class required is good and then needing that special superstar to get the bonus reward.
    • The new MLC daily blitz ticket is great. Better than the daily MLC tour. The talent tiers is a good idea too.
    • The prize wall is always nice.
    • Tour turnbuckles are scarce.
    • The showdown contest are impossible now. I am not sure why there is no longer a solo contest, but it was nice grinding it out to max the event (coins, tp, showdown coins were great to farm in this capacity). Now, it's only needing special superstars for the weekend and I constantly hit the 5sb wall for my opponents. I don't have any wrestlers to compete against them. The opponent finder algorithm still isn't fixed (opponent has already been attacked error).
    • MLC characters should be able to build from 1sb to 4sg without a faction. If an individual wants to build a wrestler, they can without the crutch of needing a faction. Just need resources and some kind of good roster to do it. Faction help is a bonus in the evo tokens they can provide. The starter pack is a boost to use less resources to max to 4sg. The pro pack is to use lesser resources to max to 4sg.
    • Never enough coin to level guys. Takes so long to build anyone now. (Partly because the showdown solo contest was removed where we could grind to get 6 or 7 million coin in an evening.)

    After all my complaints, I do appreciate the free HoF characters (Piper and Nikki Bella). I am glad that era is no longer P2P. Also, I do like the login rewards. I haven't gotten anything good yet, but the potential is there to get elite superstars for free. I have seen many getting Andrade, so that's good. And some of my faction mates have been getting high shard count pulls too. New login reward system is good.


    Respectfully yours,


    NateDogg833

  • Painkiller
    Painkiller Member
    edited January 2021

    I'm not sure if it would be possible to get things fixed.... like the freezing issue with ztaker that has been happening for months now??


    Its a small ask for someone like myself who its his main strong character

  • The recent showdown keeps crashing and freezing. Not easy to get anywhere when you are losing ground and having to use your HP to heal your wrestlers after a crash (yes my game and phone are up to date and my browser is as well on my computer)

  • Alexdiver
    Alexdiver Member ✭✭

    There have been some positives in this MLC but there just isnt enough resources in the game.

  • The MLC tours are impossible for newer players to complete normal mode. the first battle in 'normal' mode is a 3ss.

    Please consider that a newer player should be able to do normal mode. It makes sense for the 2 harder nodes to be more exclusive, but throw people a bone for normal model.

  • I would say hopeless month the way the coin event and tp event is designed its seriously getting impossible and senseless to achieve 9m to max each day is terrible definitely after mella event this is going shit day by day month by month evo tokens are getting reduced and milestones are going sky high it's a disaster day by day no common sense who ever designs it I'm sure he is keeping only spenders on mind and regular players are made to screw there is no more fun it's like hell to achieve target. Definitely not a competing game anymore with spending made a limelight zone seriously it a shit month again as usual the asked required characters were same as everyday and only few guys have them so it's a biased milestone as usual spender takes the best prizes and we struggle to even make half way because you have designed it such a way you know who doesnt have what in max so that goes a garbage event with a useless flash feud coming in to add the disaster to worster month.kindly keep your brain on ground if you keep watching sky everytime you may fall someday in a pit hole and get drubbed up.because nothing sounds good as before too much speed without break often lands in a crash 99.9% of times.so use some brain to design the monthly milestone and dont repeat same superstars to play for showdown and give in unnecessary advantages to people who already have them,atleast change the requirement it's so unrealistic these days I hope you guys are not so hopeless.

  • Kindly stop the turnbuckle shit I'm getting bored of perks spending 3 to 4m coins,let players play with trainers and showcase how good their characters are and how they have built it,your screwing the fun thing with turn 1 rosters specially when you match a 5ss against a 4sg player its completely one sided advantage to grimcreepers haven top shelf booty wolfpac elite guys either make them play 1 vs 2 and 3 vs 4 and 5 vs 6 like this concept dont make a cheating 1 vs the 20th rank on the basis of roster talent stop fooling players on your one sided love stories even in game.

  • TheDizl127
    TheDizl127 Member
    edited January 2021

    #1:

    Since one of the moderators mentioned in a response that many tours do allow for previously free or easy to obtain characters I'd though this would be good to bring up. Are we ever going to start discussing the issues with power creep? Now that we're being thrown new characters multiple times during each contest (MANY of them TOP TIER), they just keep getting stronger and stronger. This leaves all of the older characters left far behind, even the ones who USED to be considered top/high tier; their damage and health just don't scale enough to be competitive. Yet often the tour "contest superstar" for bonus rewards is either one of the newer guys that only heavy spenders will have or a sub-par older character that, even if heavily leveled, isn't able to do anything to these 5* Silver opponents. Start factoring in the strap bonuses and you can just forget about it. Even in the Royal Rumble Tours... SB Rock is required to get into the valuable side nodes for two tours!!! Are you aware how high we have to level him to even stand a CHANCE against a 5SB APA Farooq? SB Rock used to be good, but now he's power creeped out and serves very little function as newer and better showboats are released. What's the incentive to invest in your SB Rock?

    It just feels too obvious as a ploy to force players to waste precious and scarce resources on useless older stars so that we have to spend and buy more. If squeezing every last penny out is really the goal, just make every contest requirement Acro Cena so that NO ONE can do it without investing their kid's college fund.


    #2:

    In the past, the victory tour used to allow for the monthly free character to be used solo, giving those who didn't earn the chase or the shiny new stars a way to get some of those great resource rewards. But now, you HAVE to have the chase character as well. Is it REALLY necessary to lock out a such a large portion of your player base? You can't even throw us a bone and let us play ONE tour in the Victory Tour?

    I'm not going to continue harping on the same complaints everyone else has voiced. I will just say that the overly impossible milestone contests and the ridiculous pay walls have gotten so extremely out of hand it's making the game near impossible to play to any rewarding level. The incentive to spend money isn't even there anymore because you are asking us for THOUSANDS of dollars, not just for chasing a new character, but to actually finish a monthly or even weekend event. You have actually made it impossible mathematically to grind out 90% of your events. In the past, if I had some extra cash and I knew that spending $50-100 bucks would get me over the hump to maxing an event or MLC, I'd do it in a heartbeat. But now? When spending $100 may not even get me halfway to a single milestone, it makes it pointless to spend even a penny. New characters require 1200-2000 shards to unlock and yet you still sell them in increments of 20? C'mon. Tell me there's SOMEONE there who actually wants to try, just a little bit, to do better by us. I used to happily spend lots of money on this game because I really enjoyed it and I actually got some value for it. We would ALL spend if you gave us a real reason too. Amazon's appeal is that you get a lot for your money, many bonus perks, and they cater to EVERYONE. Why can't you see that?

  • @Stagger Lee apologies if this has already been raised or if I’m raising it in the wrong thread but it’s kinda urgent. The MLC solo and faction contests end at the same time. I like a few others are waiting on the faction leaderboard MLC solo points, to max the solo event. If both events are ending at the same time this won’t be possible. The solo timer needs pushed back an hour or two. Thanks

  • Stagger Lee
    Stagger Lee Moderator Moderator

    It's been brought up a few times. We haven't gotten a response from the team that handles it yet.

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